Retrofit is everywhere in UK housing right now, but what is really happening on the ground? In this episode I’m joined by Joe Nelson, a chartered architectural technologist and chartered building engineer who works as a retrofit designer and retrofit coordinator across the North West and nationally.
We talk about Eco4 and GBIS failures, phoenix companies and bad actors, and how new standards like PAS 2035-2023 and BS 40104 are trying to raise the bar. Joe also shares powerful stories about vulnerable residents, damp and mould, Awaab’s Law and why retrofit is as much about people as it is about energy efficiency.
If you are a UK surveyor, student or built environment professional, we also cover where your skills fit into retrofit, from archetype surveys for social housing providers through to new RICS retrofit pathways and training routes into the industry.
Chapters
00:00 Intro and who Joe is
00:43 Joe’s background in construction and retrofit coordination
02:05 The current state of the UK retrofit industry
03:23 Eco4, GBIS and external wall insulation failures
06:18 Social impacts and predatory behaviour in vulnerable communities
08:15 Is retrofit getting better and what the numbers really mean
09:11 PAS 2035-2023, TrustMark and accountability on site
13:06 Retrofit qualifications, assessors and the “wild west” problem
15:53 RICS retrofit standard, BS 40104 and new RICS pathways
18:21 The Surveying Room, community and joining up retrofit with surveying
18:58 Where the jobs are in retrofit and skills shortages
20:24 Clients, social housing providers and archetype surveys
23:51 Net zero, carbon capture and where public money goes
25:36 Health, Awaab’s Law, damp, mould and ventilation strategies
27:35 Levelling up, left behind regions and social value from retrofit
31:18 Joe’s own route in and how retrofit opened doors
33:06 Why retrofit is a great training ground for newer surveyors
34:51 Safeguarding, human stories and complex housing cases
37:31 Goodhart’s Law and how we police retrofit quality
39:23 Where to learn more about retrofit and training options
41:42 Final reflections on people, homes and social responsibility
45:33 Housing crisis, social housing stock and unlocking new homes
46:04 How to contact Joe
Useful links
Joe Nelson on LinkedIn: / joe-nelson-msc-mciat-c-build-e-mcabe-659284a6
Joe's website https://www.pas2035consultants.com
RICS retrofit standard and guidance: https://www.rics.org/profession-stand...
RISE retrofit masterclasses on YouTube / @riseretrofit
Government retrofit and skills bootcamps: https://energy-trust.co.uk/warm-homes...
National Careers Service: https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk
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