'I get a kick out of Nigel Farage': Jordan Peterson on Reform and why net zero is unconservative

Jordan Peterson speaks to Spectator editor Michael Gove about the ‘idiot blandishments of net zero’. He describes how setting a target at ‘zero’ dooms you to the futile pursuit of perfection, why Nigel Farage could be the answer to the preoccupation with ‘the climate apocalypse’, and whether Kemi Badenoch might put right some of the Tories’ less ‘conservative’ policies.

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