Petrostate USA vs Electrostate China: Who Will Win The Climate Race? Ep191

Happy New Year and welcome to Season 14 of Cleaning Up. From the future of nuclear to growing tensions between China and the USA, we're off with a bang with a conversation between hosts Michael Liebreich and Bryony Worthington.

They reflect on the key trends of 2024, and looking ahead to what might be on the cards in 2025, from China's rapid electrification to political upheaval in the US. Bryony and Michael get stuck into the challenges and opportunities around the build out of nuclear power, the potential of biofuels in aviation, and what we might expect from COP30 in Brazil later this year.

Leadership Circle:
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Links and more:
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• Paper on Curtailment of Nuclear Power Output during Heatwaves: https://cdn.catf.us/wp-content/upload...

Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Growth of Electricity in China
05:05 - Tribe or No Tribe?
07:05 - US Climate Reversal
14:00 - Policy Flip-flops
19:10 - Electrostate vs Petrostate
24:20 - Trump's Appointees
27:09 - All of the Above
32:05 - Nuclear Excitement
35:44 - How Expensive is Nuclear?
40:12 - Why We Need Nuclear
51:45 - Brazil, Biofuels & Aviation
56:30 - Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty
59:20 - Outro