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In this session, Jack Baker is joined by Leia Althauser from the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife to discuss how she turns habits into habitat! Using social science and conservation psychology, she gets real about what motivates people, and—spoiler alert—it’s not guilt, graphs, or guilt in graph form. Instead, she believes we need to align programs with what truly drives action: people’s values, their lived experiences, and their sense of belonging. Plus, Jack and Leia also discuss how innovative collaboration with organizations such as community groups and cat cafés can help to empower new audiences!

Recorded live at the NAAEE 2025 Conference - November 3–5, 2025. This Podcast was produced in collaboration with Jack Baker, host of "Pangolin: The Conservation Podcast." You can listen to ‘Pangolin’, or learn more about Jack’s work by visiting https://linktr.ee/pangolinpodcast.