Скачать или смотреть TWOU Ep 8 - The hard marriage conversation we wished we had sooner!

On average one third of marriages end in divorce… that statistic is WILD but perhaps not that surprising.

In this episode (recorded on our 13-year anniversary) we share honestly about the journey that got us here and vulnerably talk about the moments we weren’t sure we would make it.

In this episode we talk about:

why “I’ll fix you” isn’t love, it’s control
how fear of abandonment shaped our fights and our “I’m leaving” moments
what happened the day Kelsey said, “I’m booking a flight home” in France
how bringing choice and covenant to the same table changed everything
what shame does in conflict (and why defensiveness is often just pain)
the tiny habits and daily deposits that helped us rebuild trust

If you’re tired of quick tips and want a deeper, more honest conversation about marriage, this episode is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 — Why Marriage Feels Harder Than Ever (Honest Anniversary Reflections)

03:45 — The Toothpaste Hack: Tiny Habits That Rebuild Trust

07:30 — When Marriage Gets Messy: Real Talk We Wish We Heard Earlier

12:15 — 13 Years Together: How Our Opposite Worldviews Shaped Us

18:00 — The Hero–Victim Cycle: How We Got Stuck (and How We Broke It)

24:00 — When One Partner Falls Apart: Mental Health, Trauma & Support

30:45 — Men, Emotions & Masculinity: Why Vulnerability Feels So Risky

37:30 — Communication That Heals: Empathy, Honesty & Repair

44:00 — Shame Resilience in Marriage: Owning Your Part Without Defensiveness

50:30 — Choosing In: Covenant, Conscious Choice & Rebuilding Connection