Justice in times of war: Philippe Sands in conversation with Olga Tokariuk

Philippe Sands KC, Professor of Law, London, talks to Olga Tokariuk about the pursuit of justice in times of war. 21 November 2023.

Philippe Sands, who has been a key driving force in lobbying for a special tribunal for the Russian crime of aggression in Ukraine, and Olga Tokariuk, journalist and Chatham House OSUN Academy Fellow, discuss war crimes, the crime of aggression, Ukraine's priorities for justice, and proceedings against Russia and Putin in international courts.

Speaker

Philippe Sands KC is Professor of Law at University College London and a practising barrister at 11 King’s Bench Walk (11KBW). He appears as counsel before international courts and tribunals, and sits as an international arbitrator. He is author of Lawless World (2005) and Torture Team (2008) and numerous academic books on international law, and has contributed to the New York Review of Books, Vanity Fair, Financial Times, The Guardian and The New York Times. Philippe Sands has been a key driving force in lobbying for a special tribunal for the Russian crime of aggression in Ukraine. His latest books are The Last Colony: A Tale of Exile, Justice and Britain’s Colonial Legacy (2022), The Ratline: Love, Lies and Justice on the Trail of a Nazi Fugitive (2020), East West Street: On the Origins of Crimes Against Humanity and Genocide (2016), awarded the 2016 Baillie Gifford Prize, the 2017 British Book Awards Non-Fiction Book of the Year, and the 2018 Prix Montaigne. Philippe Sands served as President of English PEN from February 2018 to April 2023 and is a member of the Board of the Hay Festival of Arts and Literature. Philippe Sands is a patron of the Ukrainian Institute London.

Moderator

Olga Tokariuk is a Chatham House OSUN Academy Fellow, Ukraine Forum. Her main professional interests are international affairs and research on disinformation, especially in the context of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. She is a former fellow at the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism at Oxford University and CEPA non-resident fellow. Olga’s background is in journalism and she has vast experience in Ukrainian and international media, such as TIME, The Washington Post, NPR, BBC, Monocle, EFE (Spain), ANSA (Italy). She is a former head of foreign news desk at the independent Ukrainian Hromadske TV. Olga Tokariuk worked on several disinformation research projects with organisations such as Oxford Analytica, Zinc, Mythos Labs. Olga Tokariuk is a former scholar of the Digital Sherlocks program at the Atlantic Council’s DFR Lab. Olga Tokariuk is a frequent guest lecturer at various academic institutions including University of Oxford, Oxford Brookes University, University of Miami, etc. She holds an MA in political science and international relations from the University of Bologna and an MA in journalism from the Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv.

Filming & editing by Paul Bradshaw

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