If you’re an electrician who feels flat out busy but still skint at the end of the month, this episode is going to sting a bit… in a good way.
In this Toolbox Talk For Electricians, I’m joined by Andy Hill from 365 Services MK – a multi-trade business owner, qualified electrician and construction business coach – to break down what it really takes to run a profitable electrical business in the UK.
Andy’s story is mad:
Started as a carpenter/builder, running a construction firm
Lost a fortune in the 2008 recession
Retrained as an electrician, became a director in an electrical firm
Eventually shut that down and launched 365 Services MK on his own
Went back, finished the qualifications, AM2, 2391, gold card, the lot
Now runs a growing electrical & construction business and coaches trades on business, pricing and marketing
We talk honestly about the bits most sparkies avoid: knowing your numbers, saying no to bad jobs, and why “£250 a day” is not your profit.
In this episode we dive into:
From building to electrics (and back again)
How Andy went from carpenter/builder to electrician, lost money in the crash, rebuilt, and what he’d do differently if he started again.
Running a business vs being “just a good spark”
Why being technically decent on the tools isn’t enough – and the mindset shift from “self-employed spark” to business owner.
Business partners, fallouts and going solo
The reality of running a company with three directors, money imbalance, and why Andy eventually decided to walk away and set up 365 Services MK on his own.
Knowing your numbers (so you stop being a busy fool)
Why labour is NOT profit
Daily overheads, materials, fuel, software, insurance
How to work out what you actually need to charge per day
Using Google Sheets / Excel to track every single job and margin
Pricing electrical work properly
Day rates vs fixed prices, where most trades undercharge, and how to price so you’re not robbing Peter to pay Paul every month.
Saying “no” to the wrong customers
Red flags:
“Do us a deal, mate…”
“I’ve got loads of properties after this…”
Constant haggling and comparing you to “another electrician” who never seems to show up.
Niche down to level up (EV chargers, rewires & more)
How Andy used niche services like EV charger installs and higher-value work to grow faster, rather than doing every low-margin job going.
Google Business Profile & online marketing for electricians
Why Google Maps / Google Business Profile is gold for local trades
Why Checkatrade & MyBuilder mainly feed their marketing, not yours
Posting photos, getting reviews and staying active so you sit in the top 3
Building a brand so customers search you by name
Apprentices, systems & scaling a team
How Andy is training his son up through the business, putting systems and processes in place so he can scale to multiple teams and eventually step back.
Stress, ADHD/autism and running a trades business
Andy talks openly about structure, routines and how his brain works – and how that actually helps him systemise his business.
If you’re a UK electrician thinking about:
Going self-employed
Growing your electrical business
Getting off the hamster wheel of cheap jobs and bad customers
Learning how to use Google, marketing and proper pricing to earn more
…this episode will give you a proper kick in the right direction.
💬 Question for you:
What’s the most stressful part of running your electrical business right now – pricing, finding work, paperwork, or dealing with customers?
Drop it in the comments and I’ll cover the biggest ones in a future Toolbox Talk.
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The Tool Box Talks for Electricians Podcast is for Electricians interested in growing their knowledge ,skills and ultimately your business.
Ben has worked in the electrical trade for over 20 years all over the world.
From the age of 19 and going through a full apprenticeship to become a fully qualified electrician where he was employed by a number of electrical company's.
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