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In this episode, Haylie Pomroy shares the mic with Dr. Nancy Klimas to discuss chronic illness diagnosis and management, examined through both the clinician’s and the patient’s perspectives. Together, they explore why patient advocacy and informed awareness of symptoms and triggers can play a critical role in the healing process.

Dr. Klimas shares what led her to focus on integrative medicine, why paying attention to the signals the body provides matters, and the importance of working with clinicians who actively advocate alongside their patients.

She also addresses why sleep is foundational in patient assessment, explains the role of dysautonomia and bioenergetics in chronic illness, and offers clinical insight into what occurs within the immune system during periods of sympathetic overdrive.

Key points:
00:01 Introduction
02:23 Feminism, healing, and chronic illness management
04:30 Be a good historian of your health
07:33 Symptoms, factors, and triggers as illness clues
11:38 Make a list of triggers and solutions
12:42 Why you should listen to your body’s signals
14:06 Self-advocacy and self-education for patients
15:36 Find clinicians who advocate with you
16:41 Why sleep is crucial in diagnosis
18:39 Sleep apnea and following the circadian rhythm
21:31 Sleep: Sympathetic and parasympathetic
23:58 Dysautonomia in chronic illness
25:08 Bioenergetics behind chronic illness
26:08 Practical strategies in a clinical setting
27:29 Using your consultation time wisely
31:02 The immune system under sympathetic overdrive
33:35 Managing a complex illness

Dr. Nancy Klimas, a clinical immunologist by training, is the director of the Institute for Neuro-Immune Medicine who has allotted her life to helping other people find cures for their complex illnesses that were once considered helpless. She works with her fellow medical experts in researching and analyzing the deeper causes of such diseases, particularly on the neuro-immunity side, to provide the best option suited for every single case or story they handle.

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Haylie Pomroy, Founder and CEO of The Haylie Pomroy Group, is a leading health strategist specializing in metabolism, weight loss, and integrative wellness. With over 25 years of experience, she has worked with top medical institutions and high-profile clients, developing targeted programs and supplements rooted in the "Food is Medicine" philosophy. Inspired by her own autoimmune journey, she combines expertise in nutrition, biochemistry, and patient advocacy to help others reclaim their health. She is a New York Times bestselling author of The Fast Metabolism Diet.

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