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I sat down with Cary Katz, the man who quietly built the modern stage of poker. He’s the founder of PokerGO, the one who brought us the Super High Roller Bowl, Poker Masters, US Poker Open, and yes, even the Big Blind Ante. What fascinates me isn’t just his $40M+ in tournament winnings, but his mindset: the shift from frustration to gratitude, from creating a prison with losses to celebrating them. Cary opens up about business risks, how passion projects cost more than you expect, and why he thinks integrity is the only real strategy in life.

We also got into health, longevity, and some personal truths: how it took him 55 years to quit sugar, why lifting weights is a cheat code against the “four horsemen,” and how he views the next 30 years of his life as a freeroll. From billion-dollar loans to billions of minutes of poker watched, Cary’s story isn’t just about poker, it’s about building, adapting, and finding perspective through the swings. He also finally lays out who he thinks are poker's true icons... You're not going to want to miss this stunning conversation!

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00:00 – Cary Katz on being a “copycat” in poker & business
00:37 – Dan introduces Cary Katz’s impact on poker
01:02 – Building PokerGO, Super High Roller Bowl & majors
02:05 – Why Cary prefers tournaments over cash games
02:34 – Staking, friendships, and instincts in high rollers
04:14 – Copying great ideas to grow poker brands
06:03 – Making poker a true spectator sport
07:07 – Challenges with live broadcasting & delays
07:33 – Transition from Poker Central → PokerGO
08:48 – Expanding PokerGO globally (Brazil, Japan, Spanish markets)
09:41 – Cary’s mindset shift: embracing losses & positivity
12:16 – Winning his first bracelet with a new mindset
13:30 – Dan & Cary on gratitude, history, and perspective
19:00 – Health & lifestyle: fasting, quitting sugar, longevity
22:17 – Fitness, weightlifting, yoga, and cryotherapy
27:01 – Fitness vs. business focus – finding balance
27:25 – Cary’s sales background and path to building College Loan Corp
29:04 – Scaling from $20M to $3B in student loans
33:26 – Starting PokerGO as a passion project
34:53 – The cost of poker productions & why paywalls exist
40:17 – Online poker challenges vs. live poker instincts
43:22 – Why Cary supports poker: passion & competition
45:16 – The invention of the Big Blind Ante
48:18 – Difficulties of the media business & PokerGO growth
50:59 – Life balance, gratitude, and slowing down time
55:00 – Business lessons: revenue, hiring, and integrity
58:51 – Poker players transitioning into business
01:03:40 – Cary’s goals: family, longevity, and staying present
01:04:09 – What’s next for Cary Katz and PokerGO
01:04:45 – Titles, bracelets, and long-term poker goals
01:05:22 – Embracing swings & “the wave” in poker and life
01:06:12 – Closing banter: Negreanu’s influence & poker icons

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Known as Jungleman in the poker world, Dan has won nearly $12 million in live tournament earnings, more than $11 million in high stakes online games, and is a 2x World Series of Poker champion. On the podcast, Dan will interview interesting individuals who all have one thing in common… poker and helping others. Conversations about life lessons from poker, achieving success, personal growth, mental health, diet & fitness, parenthood, philanthropy, effective altruism, and more. Every Thursday.

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