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Born in 1956, US inventor, scientist, engineer and visionary W Daniel Hillis pioneered the concept of parallel computers and co-founded Thinking Machines and Applied Minds, which marked a new era in computing and established Hillis as a computing legend. [Listeners: Christopher Sykes and George Dyson; date recorded: 2016]

TRANSCRIPT: So Steve [Jobs] and I had an on and off difficult, sometimes difficult, relationship for years. For instance when I came out with the connection machine that was a perfect black cube and I showed it to Steve, Steve looked at it and said, 'A perfect black cube. Oh shit.' And I thought, 'Oh shit, he's going to make a computer that's a perfect black cube.' Which of course he did. That was the Next. And then he sort of implied that I had stolen the idea from him. But of course I had made mine a year before.

So we had little things like that that happened. But he tried to hire away some of my people and I wouldn't let him. And I actually met with him and said, 'I'm not going to let this happen because if you get... So just lay off my people.' And he tried to hire the person, but I made sure it didn't happen. So, and that person, was actually Brewster Kahle. And Brewster had made the first search engine on the connection machine. But I got Brewster to go and get Alan Kay to hire him because he wanted to develop the search engine, Thinking Machines wasn't really a position to do that. So Alan Kay did... And eventually Brewster spun out and started WAIS and started the first search engine company and then the internet archive. But that was all before the web.