Historian Rutger Bregman on War in Ukraine, the Pandemic and Human Decency| Room for Discussion

Room for Discussion’s last big guest has authored two international bestsellers, has gone viral after taking on the wealthy at Davos and has been hailed as the “Dutch Wunderkind of new ideas” by the Guardian.
Rutger Bregman studied History in Utrecht and Los Angeles, and has been writing ever since he graduated 10 years ago. His first book “Utopia for Realists” is a collection of radical ideas for life in the 21st century. Bregman advocates for a universal basic income, a 15 hour working week and an end to borders.
We have invited him to Room for Discussion to discuss ideas from his newest book, “Humankind”, a New York Times Bestseller. Using scientific evidence from many fields, Bregman argues that at the end of the day, most people are decent.
We discussed with him whether that is really true. We looked at whether there is any decency in the current war in Ukraine, and how the bloodshed can be explained if we're supposedly all decent. We also discussed the dividing lines that cut our society into camps of “good” and “bad”, “us” and “them” during the pandemic, and considered ways to overcome these differences. At the end, we addressed the most existential challenges we face as a generation, from climate change to extreme poverty and the question: what will life be like in 50 years?

Interviewer: Gabriel Garbers
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