The Long Road to Change | Episode 36 | Everything is Everything

How do we bring about change? How should we think about changing the state, changing society, changing ourselves?

Welcome to Episode 36 of Everything is Everything, a weekly podcast hosted by Amit Varma and Ajay Shah.

In this episode, Ajay and Amit discuss discuss theories of change in different contexts, with one common theme: we need to play the long game.

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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
00:00 Packaging
00:13 Introduction: Wait! Need Coffee First!
02:02 Chapter 1: The Two Kinds of Change
14:34 Chapter 2: Do We Take Progress for Granted?
30:47 Chapter 3: Changing the State
55:35 Chapter 4: Changing Society
59:54 Chapter 5: The Personal View
1:14:10 Chapter 6: Ajay's Recco
1:15:24 Chapter 7: Amit's Recco

USEFUL RESOURCES:
1. Amit on Twitter:   / amitvarma  
2. Ajay on Twitter:   / ajay_shah  
3. The Seen and the Unseen -- Amit's audio podcast: https://seenunseen.in/
(Also on all podcast apps. And YouTube, though less than 1% of listens come from here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSeenAndTh...)
4. Ajay's organisation, XKDR Forum, on YouTube:    / @xkdr  
5. In Service of the Republic -- Vijay Kelkar and Ajay Shah: https://amzn.eu/d/hwGILb3
6. The Art of Clear Writing -- Amit's writing course: https://indiauncut.com/clear-writing/
7. The Reformers -- Episode 28 of Everything is Everything:    • The Reformers | Episode 28 | Everythi...  
8. The Solution -- Bertolt Brecht: https://allpoetry.com/The-Solution
9. The Ideas of Our Constitution — Episode 164 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Madhav Khosla):    • Ep 164: The Ideas of Our Constitution  
10. Mera Joota Hai Japani:    • Видео  
11. The End of History? — Francis Fukuyama: https://www.jstor.org/stable/24027184
12. Against the Grain -- James C Scott: https://amzn.eu/d/4hRyRgg
13. A Deep Dive Into Ukraine vs Russia — Episode 335 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Ajay Shah):    • Ep 335:  A Deep Dive Into Ukraine vs ...  
14. India’s Massive Pensions Crisis — Episode 347 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Ajay Shah & Renuka Sane):    • Ep 347: India's Massive Pensions Crisis  
15. The Life and Times of KP Krishnan — Episode 355 of The Seen and the Unseen:    • Ep 355: The Life and Times of KP Kris...  
16. Understanding the State -- Episode 25 of Everything is Everything:    • Understanding the State | Episode 25 ...  
17. When Should the State Act? -- Episode 26 of Everything is Everything:    • When Should the State Act?  | Episode...  
18. We Love Vaccines! We Love Freedom! -- Episode 27 of Everything is Everything:    • We Love Vaccines! We Love Freedom!  |...  
19. Public Choice Theory Explains SO MUCH -- Episode 33 of Everything is Everything:    • Public Choice Theory Explains SO MUCH...  
20. Fixing the Knowledge Society -- Episode 24 of Everything is Everything:    • Fixing the Knowledge Society | Episod...  
21. The Overton Window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton...
22. XKDR Forum paper and software in methodology for nighttime lights data: https://xkdr.org/paper/but-clouds-got...
23. Kashi Ka Assi -- Kashinath Singh: https://amzn.eu/d/djvcyxq
24. Ajay Shah on state capacity, governance and institutions -- Episode 18 of Jack of All Knowledge: https://open.spotify.com/episode/47Ip...
25. Weapons of the Weak -- James C Scott: https://amzn.eu/d/00wDouS
26. Seeing Like a State -- James C Scott: https://amzn.eu/d/9azMHSH
27. Runaway -- Alice Munro: https://amzn.eu/d/8Itly0g
28. Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage -- Alice Munro: https://amzn.eu/d/7Q2BYCZ
29. The Bear Came Over the Mountain -- Alice Munro: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...

Produced by Amit Varma
Shot by Vaishnav Vyas and Nomsita MS Haritashya:   / vaishnav.vyas  
Edited by Nomsita MS Haritashya:   / nomsitaharitashya  
Thanks to Gaurav Chintamani for helping with sound:   / gaurav_chintamani  
Chapter images & additional illustrations by Simahina:   / i_am_simahina