Full debate "Ukrainian Nationalism, Volhyn 43, and Decommunization" (Націоналізм, Волинь 1943 р, і декомунізація) with Dr. Taras Kuzio and Prof. David Marples, 24 July 2017.
Taras Kuzio: No research centre on Ukrainian nationalism; John Armstrong "Ukrainian Nationalism"
2:20 Professors at Ukrainian centres in North America hide from Ukrainian nationalism because the subject is too provocative, controversial, too difficult
2:55 Timothy Snyder has done very objective work on Ukrainian nationalism. Snyder's work as an academic and as a public intellectual is more than the output from the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies and Harvard Ukrainian Research Institute combined
4:30 Ukrainian diaspora has not invested in Ukrainian nationalism studies, politics; Fixation on the Holodomor and Hrushevsky translation project created a vacuum
6:35 Myroslav Shkandrij, George Liber
7:00 One dimensional focus that Ukrainian nationalists were Nazi collaborators. In 1939 Ukrainian nationalists (OUN) were the first to fight the Nazi backed Hungarians in Carpatho-Ukraine
7:26 Chronology of Ukrainian Nationalists relations with the Nazis
9:10 David Marples: Heyday of studying Ukrainian nationalism was during the Cold War, John Armstrong commissioned by American intelligence services
11:30 JP Himka, Serhiy Yekelchyk, Kai Streuber, Olesya Hrometiuk, Oksana Shevel, Andriy Portinov
13:02 War crimes pertain to every nation on the planet. Ukrainians should not be singled out for war crimes in World War Two (WW2)
13:41 Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia
16:28 Taras Kuzio: Two countries doing the most work on Ukrainian nationalism are Poland the Great Britain. Poland has many think tanks
17:08 Largest collection Ukrainian history school textbooks outside Ukraine
18:35 Unfair to Ukrainians because Ukraine has not acknowledged war crimes ahead of war crimes committed by European countries (except for Germany)
20:20 Most historians are not public intellectuals and refrain from social media, and therefore do not influence public opinion
21:06 David Marples: Polish-Ukrainian discussions on Volhyn 1943. Ukrainian government commissioned a group of historians to study OUN/UPA and to arrive at a conclusion of whether they committed war crimes. Findings were somewhat inconclusive
22:12 Historians have been replaced by publicists. Some work by Institute of National Remembrance is pathetic, misleading, a disgrace. Not serious studies of the past. Whitewashing of crimes committed. Ukraine has to deal with Poland
23:38 Petro Poroshenko, Volodymyr Viatrovych. An apology from Ukraine would go a long way
24:57 Institute of National Memory in Ukraine is not progressive and should not be supported
25:30 Taras Kuzio: Context necessary to understand Volhyn 1943. Viktor Yuschenko, Jarosław Kaczyński
27:30 Volhyn 1943 is part of a larger war with Ukrainians: Pacification of Ukrainians in 1930; Polish massacres of Ukrainians in Chelm/Kholm (Kholmshchyna) and Pidlachia/Podlachia (Підляшшя), 20,000 Ukrainians killed, 60,000 Poles killed
29:41 Polish-Ukrainian Civil War, 1930-1947
30:55 Russian chauvinism refuse to recognize Ukrainian national identity. In the 1930s and 1940s, majority of Poles believed that Ukrainians were not a people, that they should be assimilated or ethnically cleansed
34:02 120,000 Ukrainians fought in the Polish Army in 1939
34:52 David Marples: Poland had large minority groups. Ukrainian National Democratic Union
36:50 Defeat of Germans at Stalingrad
38:15 Timothy Snyder article, historians and governments, Petro Poroshenko visiting Volhynia monument
40:00 Russian propaganda, hacking, (Ukrainians are pretty good hackers as well); role of historians
41:50 Taras Kuzio: Volodymyr Viatrovych tries to apply context, does not whitewash history
44:20 Poland desperately looking for smoking gun: Who gave the order for the massacres? No signed OUN document has been found
46:12 David Marples: OUN, Stepan Bandera never changed his views, did not condemn Volhynia killings
48:16 Taras Kuzio: Timothy Snyder Reconstruction of Nations - Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, extremely objective criticizing both sides. Soviets finished Volyn massacres
51:02 David Marples: Euromaidan not about nationalism or Soviet. Most people in Ukraine are neither. Unifying features of the past are need to forge Ukrainian identity. Alexander Motyl. Narrow definition will not unite Ukraine
53:55 Taras Kuzio: Bandera was a nobody in terms of Ukrainian nationalism
55:50 Open Letter
https://m.krytyka.com/en/articles/ope...
Dr. Kuzio is Senior Research Associate, Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies, University of Alberta, Canada. Prof. Marples is Chair at the Department of History & Classics, University of Alberta, Canada.
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