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I interviewed Jack and Ryan from AJR, the band that has built one of the most original voices in modern music. We talked about how they use humor and vulnerability to write songs that connect on a deeper level, why embarrassment is often the best creative compass, how Broadway and magic inspire their live shows, and what they’ve learned about navigating TikTok, streaming, and the new economics of the music industry. We also explored their thoughts on AI, why imperfection makes art feel authentic, and how they’ve grown from writing dorm-room party songs to filling arenas around the world.

If you want to understand the future of music, create art that’s both playful and profound, or learn how to stay true to yourself in a world driven by algorithms, this conversation will give you a rare inside look at the creative process of AJR.

00:00:58 How to write music
00:09:41 Embarrassment as creative fuel
00:12:45 Lessons from Musical Theater
00:14:40 How to write a song
00:20:01 Why is country music booming?
00:29:24 What makes a song great?
00:31:11 How do you make a live show?
00:39:44 When AJR finally “made it”
00:50:57 Should musicians use AI?
00:59:41 Dealing with haters
01:09:27 Writing 1,000 bad songs
01:15:40 How musicians listen to music

Hey! I’m David Perell and I’m a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible.

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