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This time, we have a very special episode I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose. We cover dozens of topics: from the cutting edge of health tech to pro-tips for colonoscopies; AI; adventures in Japan and Taiwan seeking out perfect coffee and tea; tips for drinking less alcohol; powerful documentaries like 32 Sounds and books such as Awareness; the unexpected joys and therapeutic benefits of adult Lego; and much, much more.

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[00:00] Start.
[00:44] Two old men discuss the importance of regular medical checkups.
[07:29] Zen and the art of 32 Sounds.
[10:34] Going with the low-poly Flow.
[13:49] KevKev goes cleanclean and sober.
[20:57] The first rule of AA is you do not talk about AA.
[22:15] LEGO bricks (and Nanoblocks) as art for grown-ups.
[24:19] Maintaining sobriety with a partner who still drinks.
[27:36] Addressing under-the-hood reasons behind addiction with a group.
[30:05] TimTim talks Taiwan and tea.
[37:45] A Japanese coffee bender.
[43:52] An "expresso" intervention.
[44:54] Where Americans can get Taiwanese tea if they can't make the trip.
[46:10] Kevin's new WHOOP wearable and quantifying health benchmarks/goals.
[52:48] I'm getting a new exercise bike because the old one rubbed me the wrong way.
[54:16] Kevin keeps COVID and cooties at bay with Profi in his schnozz.
[57:09] Sippin' dashi and conquering anxiety with Awareness.
[01:01:42] Getting a (Versa) Gripp on eclectic injuries.
[01:05:20] Finding magic in the ordinary with Paul Madonna and Hayao Miyazaki.
[01:08:36] The Well of Being is back in stock for a reasonable price.
[01:09:18] Finding Asian artisanal goods in the US without having to travel.
[01:12:08] Squirrels: distracting dogs and humans for millennia.
[01:13:29] My personal ups and downs with accelerated TMS.
[01:23:57] The current state of consumer-level sleep aid technology.
[01:29:24] How full genome sequencing helped Kevin tame a once-insurmountable health issue.
[01:31:49] Eyeing traffic at the intersection of AI and life sciences.
[01:34:04] Genetic data privacy concerns.
[01:38:15] Face to face with my deepfaked side hustler.
[01:39:44] Kevin's unsettling AI headphone review experiment and its implications for real humans.
[01:42:42] Steps Kevin has taken toward proving he's a real boy.
[01:44:05] "You were talking to models — you were just talking to large language models."
[01:46:01] Exploding Kittens and I made a game together: Coyote.
[01:47:48] When meditation retreats go right (and wrong).
[01:55:11] Parting thoughts.