Jenny Odell on How to Do Nothing | Offline Podcast

This week, Jenny Odell teaches Jon Favreau how to unplug and, almost literally, smell the roses. Pulling from lessons outlined in her book “How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy,” Jenny makes the case that our attention is precious and what we choose to focus it on doesn’t always need to be productive.

00:00 - Intro
00:59 - Beginning of interview
01:38 - How the 2016 election influenced her work
04:17 - What it means to “do nothing”
10:30 - Eliminating boredom: iPhone vs. loupe
16:29 - Our addiction to updates
19:05 - Connectivity & sensitivity
31:19 - How to resist the attention economy

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