Escalation Debate: Solid Game VS Fast Game [Ice White] [

Erik Carlberg (Ablaze, Mystery's wingman) defends Mystery's 7 hour rule in a Solid Game VS Fast Escalation Game debate against Ross Jeffries (Speed Seduction), Markus Wolf (Ultimate Man Project) and Michael Lee (Mr Silk).

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00:00 Intro
02:36 Solid Game Definition
06:38 Is It Possible To Pull Women Quickly Most Of The Time?
27:10 Can You Pull Women In Less Than 4 Hours?
35:01 Attraction Science
37:32 Ross Jeffries Steel Man Argument
40:11 Mystery Method VS Speed Seduction
44:18 Escalation
48:54 Where's Debbie?
50:18 How Ablaze Escalates
1:00:08 Fun Based Escalation
1:10:23 Human Suggestibility & Human Will
1:12:09 Ross Calls Out Ablaze
1:12:58 Understanding Someone On A Sexual Level
1:19:09 Identifying Her Sexual Desires
1:21:26 Are All Women Open To Sex On The First Date?
1:33:27 Sex On The Second Or Third Date
1:37:37 Defending Solid Game
1:40:57 Building A Sexual Connection With A Woman
2:00:40 Calibrated Game Is The Best Game
2:07:10 Where Mystery's 7 Hour Rule Fails
2:09:22 Should New Guys Do Solid Game Or Fast Game?
2:11:02 Can Inexperienced Guys Pull Women Within 4 Hours?
2:21:30 Solid Game VS Fast Game For New Guys
2:23:00 Conversational Skills
2:24:40 Cold Feet
2:29:55 The Danger Of Too Much PUA Theory
2:31:48 Downsides Of Each System
2:36:57 Closing Thoughts
2:45:15 Ablaze's Upcoming Book: The Vortex Of Love
2:45:49 The Best Game Is The Game That Works For You
2:52:15 Message Game: Getting Laid From Tinder Quickly
2:56:05 Hawk Tuah Girl VS JustPearlyThings
2:56:52 Outro

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