Ninjago Lloyd (All Forms) VS Jay (All Forms)

justifications

1. i think kid lloyd edges out inventor jay a little, because by default jay is very scared, and lloyd as a kid had some training, super strength, and unstable powers
2. debatable, but overall powers better than no powers so lloyd wins in my eyes. definitely would be a fight to see tho
3. although having plot armor and more battle iq in skybound, jay's minor improvements can't really go up against lloyd's energy, lightning, fire, ice, and earth powers
4. jay with sword of souls absolutely crushes angry lloyd, because one strike from the swords steals the soul of the victim. and angry lloyd wouldnt be rational and cautious of such a weapon. jay has enough battle IQ in s6 to not let lloyd destroy the SOS
4. GOL is the second strongest form of lloyd, and one of the strongest oni. garmadon's blast slowed the overlord, but lloyds physically made the overlord fall. hes also very angry, and that combination doesnt fair too well for a lighthearted and easy going flying jay, with stronger lightning without a mirror
5. no question, USM solos 90% of ninjago, including all TP ninja. he also still has his elements. So.. energy, fire, ice, earth, lightning, golden fire, golden ice, golden earth (stronger earth control), and theoretically golden lightning, extreme durability, levitation, golden spinjitzu, and a golden dragon VS a teleporting speedy lightning boi who is a bit hard to hit.

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