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Comedian Zainab Johnson joins Sam for a smart, funny, and unfiltered conversation about identity, comedy, and power.

They dive into her standup special Hijabs Off (now on Prime Video), where Zainab explores what it means to be Black, Muslim, and a woman in America — and why that trifecta still feels radical. She opens up about performing in a post-DEI Hollywood, navigating Islamophobia, and finding freedom in standup. They also unpack the rise of crowd work, the hustle of comedy today, and what it really takes to be heard.

Plus: Zainab shares the surprising story of how the Wayans family helped kick start her career.

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00:00 - Introduction to the Conversation
02:58 - The Anticipation of Brandy and Monica's Tour
06:02 - The Role of Ray J in Pop Culture
09:09 - Zaynab Johnson's Comedy Special: Hijabs Off
11:54 - Exploring Muslim Identity in Comedy
15:11 - The Intersection of Race and Religion
18:02 - Current Events and Their Impact on Muslim Identity
20:53 - The Ebb and Flow of Diversity in Hollywood
23:57 - The Future of Muslim Representation in Comedy
32:59 - The Art of Comedy and Personal Experience
34:46 - Connecting with Diverse Audiences
36:40 - Radical Existence and Identity
38:00 - Representation in Art and Media
40:06 - Cultural Influences and Music
42:22 - The Evolution of Comedy and Remakes
45:00 - The Hustle of Modern Comedy
49:06 - Audience Engagement and Etiquette

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The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.

Executive Producers: Sam Sanders and Arnie Seipel
Showrunner: Tyler Greene
Senior Producer: Bennett Purser
Video Lead: Beau Delmore
Switcher & Video Editor: Luis Peña
Technical Director: Phil Richards
Producer: Andrea Bautista
Digital Editor: Andrea Domanick
Theme Music: Elisheba Ittoop
Art Director: Evan Solano

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