Mathias Sundin in Conversation at the Optimism Cafe with Victor Perton and Jeff Kerr-Bell

“the core thing that makes me optimistic is humanity”

That's what Mathias Sundin told Victor Perton and Jeff Kerr-Bell in their conversation at The Centre for Optimism's Optimism Cafe.

An inspiring conversation: Concluding the conversation, Jeff Kerr-Bell referred to the T-Shirts he and Mathias were wearing, and said, "To summarise what we've discussed, the question on my T-shirt is, "what makes you optimistic?" And it's beautifully answered by your T-shirt with the slogan "the future is created by optimists."

Victor Perton asked Mathias, "What makes you Optimistic?"

Mathias responded, "There are so many things that make me optimistic, and the core thing that makes me optimistic is humanity. We are capable of so much, especially when we really try hard. We can achieve amazing things.
We do that in small things all the time, but we can also really, really make an effort, and we can achieve great things.

"Of course, there are still many bad things going on in the world, but if you look at humanity as growing up, as a human being growing up, a teenager now or a little bit older than that, we still have a lot to learn, but it's progress.

"It doesn't mean everything is good now or everything is bad. You have to look at this trajectory.

"Most people want to do good things in the world, which makes me very optimistic."