Violence against public figures, politicians, and high-profile individuals is no longer rare or isolated — it’s increasing, accelerating, and becoming more unpredictable. Threat reporting, attempted attacks, and successful assaults on protectees have risen sharply over the last several years, driven by political polarization, online radicalization, and the ease with which individuals can move from grievance to action. From lawmakers and candidates to commentators and executives, the modern threat environment is broader, faster, and far less controllable than most people understand.
In this episode, I sit down with Caleb Gilbert, founder of White Glove Protection Group, to break down the reality of personal protection — including where it works, where it fails, and why it’s often misunderstood. We take a hard look at the mechanics of real-world security failures, including a detailed discussion of the protection dynamics surrounding the Charlie Kirk attack site, and why even professional protective details can be overwhelmed. We also cover what individuals can realistically do to improve their own personal security in an increasingly hostile environment — without illusions, guarantees, or false confidence.
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[00:01:59] Charlie Kirk event introduction
[00:03:02] Executive protection planning and challenges
[00:06:21] Risk categories and unsustainable situations
[00:08:48] Impact of high-profile attacks on the industry
[00:10:44] Challenges of protective operations
[00:13:24] Hollywood detail anecdotes and board-mandated protection
[00:14:54] New York Tower incident and industry impact
[00:15:40] Increase in attacks and barrier to violence discussion
[00:17:19] Societal factors, media, and violence
[00:18:34] Analysis of Charlie Kirk event response
[00:21:23] Documentation, liability, and client decisions
[00:23:10] Resource constraints: ambulance and law enforcement at events
[00:26:38] Future of public venue security
[00:29:31] Reflections on team performance and public perception
[00:30:26] Media reactions and misinformation post-incident
[00:32:32] Guest's career origins and exposure to EP
[00:36:00] Getting started and breaking into EP
[00:38:10] Path from entry-level roles to A-list clients
[00:42:19] Hollywood stories and client quirks
[00:46:18] Transition to Silicon Valley protection
[00:50:02] Building the covert protection model
[00:51:38] Chief Security Officer role and education
[00:56:02] Human element in global and corporate security
[00:57:03] Founding a security company after corporate life
[01:01:06] Brunt sponsor segment
[01:03:06] Selecting and training protection professionals
[01:09:24] EP access and costs; full-time agent economics
[01:09:57] Situational awareness for everyday people
[01:12:08] EP expert advice for public safety
[01:16:00] Practical explanations: intuition and daily risk
[01:20:20] Personal stories of avoiding and managing risk
[01:27:17] Recent incident: stopping a robbery
[01:30:36] U.S. state differences and crime rates reflection
[01:31:14] Social media, special operations, and public perception
[01:36:43] Digital protection for clients and families
[01:41:13] Client selection criteria and challenges in EP
[01:44:54] Wealth, perspective, and personal reflections
[01:47:15] Aviation security, unique logistics for UHNW clients
[01:51:45] Job security, adaptability, and industry transitions
[01:53:42] FBO experiences and high-net-worth anecdotes
[01:57:03] Switching off, burnout, and life balance
[02:01:06] Volunteering, giving back, and chasing passion
[02:06:36] Keeping teams sharp: training models and education
[02:10:14] Digital footprint management for protectees
[02:13:02] Looking ahead: Threat outlook and societal polarization
[02:15:00] Media, information warfare, and truth-seeking
[02:18:01] Accepting uncertainty and evaluating information
[02:19:19] Social media reality vs. day-to-day life
[02:20:02] Value of truth and measured response to tragedies
[02:21:03] Closing thoughts and gratitude
[02:22:36] Gift exchange and show wrap-up
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