Deciem & The Ordinary Science Chat with Prudvi Kaka and Dr Davin Lim | Lab Muffin Supp Info

​‪@drdavinlim‬ and I sat down with ‪@Deciem‬ Chief Scientific Officer Prudvi Kaka (PK) very early one morning (well, early for me at least - Davin gets up before dawn and PK's in Canada). We covered The Ordinary's products, active ingredients, testing product efficacy, ingredient incompatibilities and more.

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0:53 Do you use your own products? Which ones?
1:07 What's your skincare routine?
1:22 Who does Deciem's formulations? 
2:11 How do product ideas come about?
2:59 How did you get into formulating skincare?
3:31 What does your R&D department look like? How long have you been at Deciem?
4:41 When will The Ordinary's chemical sunscreens be released? Can you tell us more about them?
7:26 How stable are The Ordinary's retinol products?
9:55 Refrigerate your retinol for 3 month shelf life
10:24 How do you ensure your products are effective? (lots of talk about the different types of testing)
12:31 Do you do clinical testing?
13:26 Has the testing changed since you've been at Deciem? Have you gone back and tested the old formulations?
14:08 Why does Deciem say you can't use vitamin C with copper peptides?
16:40 How did 100% ascorbic acid powder come about? Do higher percentage vitamin C products work better?
22:25 Why 100% niacinamide powder?
23:52 Testing niacinamide, L-ascorbic powder mixes for penetration and irritation?
25:15 Taking into account ethnic variations when releasing products in different countries?
26:25 Why does Deciem say you can't use niacinamide and vitamin C together?
28:35 Any more DIY products coming up?
29:35 Can most people really use AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution once a week? 
32:35 Testing products in terms of how consumers tend to overuse them?
36:09 What else can't copper peptides be used with?
37:20 Why aren't there many gels or creams from The Ordinary?
38:14 Have you tested the effectiveness of different formulations?
39:33 Different approaches with NIOD and The Ordinary formulations?
40:41 Disease-specific product lines?
41:49 Next big ingredient for The Ordinary? 

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