Ibanez Tube Screamer Or BK Butler Tube Driver? [Plus Mythos Envy Pro & Hagerman 12AX7 Overdriver]

Nobody is saying these things are the same… But it’s fun to compare them anyway!

Welcome to the show! Let’s say it from the top. In terms of circuit and tone, the Ibanez TS 9 Tube Screamer and BK Butler Tube Driver are really not the same thing at all… Nevertheless they’re both absolute classics, and they both, erm, have 'Tube' in the name.
To whit, this is a vague excuse to play a couple of my favourite overdrives of all time, and take in a couple of modern alternatives along the way.
While the Mythos Envy Pro Overdrive is very closely related to the Tube Screamer, the Hagerman 12AX7 Overdriver is not designed to be like a Tube Driver. So please don’t be all handbag that we’re not comparing apples with apples – consider it more about context and difference, than comparison and similarity.
We wish Dan a speedy recovery. Enjoy the show!

Interesting bits and go to sections…
0:00 Intro playing
1:22 Why are we doing this?
1:56 TS 9 & Tube Driver background
3:04 Why the Mythos & Hagerman?
3:55 Today’s amps - Noel’s Knobs
4:44 TS 9 Strat, lower gain
6:30 Tube Driver & TS 9 lower gain comparison
8:31 Les Paul humbucker with both pedals
10:10 Headroom?
12:17 Upping the gain, both pedals
13:43 What do you want, EQ wise?
15:47 What about clean up?
18:43 Why choose the Mythos Envy?
19:42 The fabled TS opamp
21:03 TS 9 & Envy comparison
29:40 TS 9 & Envy LP neck pickup
31:10 Hagerman 12AX7 Overdriver intro
32:10 Tube Driver & Hagerman comparison
33:50 Wow, Hagerman is LOUD
35:00 Hagerman cleanup
37:20 Hagerman tone control
38:07 TS 9 into Hagerman
40:44 Closing thoughts

Pedals & Stuff used in this show
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• Ibanez TS 9 Tube Screamer (standard modern reissue)
• BK Butler Tube Driver (5-knob version fro 2015)
• Mythos Pedals Envy NV-9 Pro Overdrive
• Hagerman 12AX7 Overdriver
• Free The Tone Future Factory Delay
• TheGigRig G3 Atom

Guitars in today’s show
• 1961 Fender Stratocaster - Mick’s video here:    • Three New Strats For Mick?! [1961, 19...  
• Gibson Custom True Historic 1957 Les Paul Goldtop Murphy Aged - no specific video yet
• 1970 Fender Stratocaster - Mick’s video here:    • Three New Strats For Mick?! [1961, 19...  

Amps used in today’s show
• Two-Rock Classic Reverb Signature & 212 cab with TR1265B speakers
• PRS HDRX 20 and Zilla Custom 210 cab with Cessation Alnico Gold speakers

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