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What if trying to feel good all the time is actually keeping you stuck?
In this episode of The Proof, I’m joined by Dr. Emily Musgrove, clinical psychologist and author of Unstuck, to explore why emotional discomfort isn’t something to avoid, but something to understand. We unpack what it really means to be “stuck,” how avoidance sneaks into everyday life (even among high performers), and the role of values, awareness, and psychological flexibility in creating meaningful change.
In this episode, we cover:
Why feeling stuck doesn’t mean you’re broken
How emotional avoidance drives disconnection
The difference between psychological flexibility and cognitive fusion
The cost of always performing and staying polished
Hedonic vs. eudaimonic wellbeing
How to clarify values and live with intention
One practical step to start moving forward
If you’re feeling overwhelmed, burned out, or just unsure of what’s next, this conversation offers clarity, compassion, and tools to help you reconnect with what matters.
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Simon
Highlights:
00:00 Intro
01:31 How Stuckness Manifests in Thoughts, Emotions, and Behaviour
03:57 Willingness to Feel: Key to Moving Forward
05:03 Emotional Literacy and Gender Socialisation Differences
07:38 Reframing Stuckness: Not Broken, Just Human
09:23 Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) Overview
12:07 Psychological Flexibility: Changing Your Relationship to Thoughts
23:32 Childhood Conditioning and Adult Emotional Patterns
27:47 Perfectionism and Authenticity: Letting Go of the Mask
31:09 Cognitive Fusion and Avoidance: Barriers to Flexibility
36:03 Exploring Blame, Responsibility, and Relational Dynamics
40:15 Personal Health Crisis and Values Reassessment
42:59 How to Begin Identifying Your Core Values
46:51 Values Exercises: 80th Birthday and Beyond
56:04 Closing the Gap Between Values and Actions
58:36 Pain Acceptance: Reducing Struggle With Emotional Discomfort
1:05:02 Emotional Awareness: Tools for Daily Self-Attunement
01:06:46 Mindfulness: Practical Science for Self-Observation
01:11:58 Building Emotional Literacy Through Language and Body Awareness
01:17:46 Final Reflections: The Courage to Change and Feel
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