Почему #Тайра долго не обменивали, за что её задержали и грозила ли ей смертная казнь. Как история Тайры видится из России. Why #Tyra was not exchanged for a long time, why she was detained and whether she faced the death penalty. How the history of Taira is seen from Russia.
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So today I decided to record Tyra's reaction video. I've been thinking about this for a few days now. I wondered format. Probably this format will be the best. Let's move on to Tyra's interview. Tyra is a Ukrainian paramedic. She has no medical education. She exclusively took out people. Maybe she put on simple bandages. She's not even a nurse, she's just a volunteer. Her name is Yulia Paevskaya. Her call sign, nickname is Tyra. Listen to her interview:
Tyra: I took a bus and gathered the women and children who were in the basement of the hospital. I planned to take them to Zaporozhye. I was absolutely sure it would be the same as always. Because many times volunteers took out civilians. There were never any problems.
Taira was like a volunteer, like a civilian. She was then in civilian clothes. She just filled the bus with women and children. And went across the demarcation line. Well, not a line of fire, but hostilities between Russia and Ukraine. In Zaporozhye from Mariupol. Accordingly, we can imagine that a bus full of women with children is traveling from Mariupol to Zaporozhye. Tyra has no official documents. She is exclusively a volunteer, she is in civilian clothes.
Taira: The buses were stopped, but they continued on. But this time, they probably recognized me right away. I don't know if it's right away or not. I think right away. And without explaining anything, they took me away. The first interrogation was 3 days later. After 3 days I was in Donetsk. They started with the fact that I’m from Azov. This is a crime for them. I didn’t lie to them, I’m not from Azov and have never been a part of Azov. I told them about it all the time.
Taira told the Russians that she wasn’t a military, not from Azov and, accordingly, she was a civilian. She isn’t considered a POW, because she wasn’t taken prisoner on the battlefield and she isn’t a military. Accordingly, she wasn’t changed for a very long time, because the exchange takes place by POW. POW, yes . We’ll further understand that she wasn’t a POW. She went on to a regular criminal case. I wouldn't be surprised if a criminal case was opened against her. Which? We will soon find out.
Tyra: They tried to get this confession from me. But my parents taught me not to lie. And I didn't lie.
Why did the Russians insist so much that she was from Azov? Because the Ukrainian side submitted it several times in the exchange lists. The Russians could not understand: she was being asked to be exchanged as a POW, but she is an ordinary civilian.
Tyra: Then they came up with a version that I killed the parents of 2 orphans who were on the bus.
Rep.: Civilian, which you wanted to take out from Mariupol to Zaporozhye?
Taira: Yes, from shelling so they can survive.
We can hear from Taira herself (this was specified by the journalist) that she took out children without parents, without documents. She didn’t have any documents that she was the mother or official representative of the children. Who is she to these children? But at the same time, Taira took them out through the line of hostilities from Mariupol to Zaporozhye. In any country, under any regime, this is kidnapping. If I go now, take some children and say that they are in danger. And I’ll take them somewhere without their parents, it doesn’t matter if they are orphans or not. I'm not their official representative... Tyra didn't have any official documentation that she was officially evacuating anyone. She was taken away simply as an ordinary criminal who had kidnapped children. She was not a POW. This is a pure, simple, common criminal offense. And she sat in a pre-trial detention center, not in a POW camp, but in a pre-trial detention center, like an ordinary criminal. Let’s listen further:
Taira: There is always psychological pressure, apart from other interrogation methods. This was the most terrible pressure for me, because it never stops. They constantly try to brainwash you. We sang the Russian anthem at least 3 times a day. Sometimes up to 20. A portrait of Putin hung in every cell.
Oh, I'll close the window now. It is very hot in Moscow, so the window was opened . About the fact that she sang the hymn 3 times a day at least. Apparently Tyra knows the anthem better than I do. Because I don't know the Russian anthem text now. During my lifetime, the anthem was changed 3 times. This is the 3rd anthem. I studied the Soviet Union anthem at school. I still somehow remember it from my childhood. Therefore, it would be very interesting to ask Tyra to say at least the 1st line of the anthem. At least the 1-2 lines, since she taught. She says she learned the hymn every day.
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