327 - Choices, costs, and challenges in US healthcare: insurance, drug pricing, & potential reforms

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Dr. Saum Sutaria is the Chairman & CEO of Tenet Healthcare & a former leader in McKinsey & Company’s Healthcare & Private Equity Practices, where he spent almost two decades shaping the field. In this episode, Saum unpacks the complexities of the U.S. healthcare system, providing a detailed overview of its structure, financial flows, & historical evolution. They delve into topics such as private insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, employer-sponsored coverage, drug pricing, PBMs & the administrative burdens impacting the system. Saum’s insights help connect healthcare spending to broader economic issues while exploring potential reforms & the role of technology in improving efficiency. Saum highlights how choice & innovation distinguish the U.S. healthcare system, explores the reasons behind exorbitant drug prices, & examines the potential solutions, challenges, & trade-offs involved in lowering costs while striving to improve access, quality, & affordability. The opinions expressed by Saum in this episode are his own & do not represent the views of his employer.

We discuss
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0:01:38-US healthcare system: financial scale & unique challenges
0:07:08-How the US healthcare system works
0:16:39-Huge growth & price impact after transition from out-of-pocket payments to the modern 3rd party payer model
0:20:31-US healthcare system vs other developed nations
0:26:48-Medicare & Medicaid overview
0:31:11-Why the US kept a employer-sponsored insurance system rather than pursue universal healthcare
0:36:00-Evolution of insurance: from catastrophic coverage to chronic disease management
0:45:00-Challenge of managing healthcare costs while expanding access & demand for chronic illness care
0:50:07-Balancing cost, choice, & access: US healthcare system vs Canada
0:58:26-US role in pharmaceutical innovation, impact on drug pricing, & the potential effects of price controls on innovation & healthcare costs
1:08:36-How misaligned incentives have driven up drug prices in the US
1:15:26-Cost of innovation & choice, & sustainability of the current healthcare expenditures in the face of a shrinking workforce & aging population
1:23:16-Why life expectancy is lower in the US despite excelling at extending lifespan beyond 70
1:31:52-Potential solutions/challenges of controlling drugs costs
1:47:12-Balancing GLP-1 drug innovation with affordability & healthcare spending sustainability
1:54:48-Reducing healthcare spending: complexities, trade offs, & implications of cuts to healthcare expenditures
2:05:49-Government regulation
2:11:30-Hospital billing: complexity & paths to simplification
2:19:20-How prioritizing access & choice increased expenditures: healthcare exchanges & the ACA
2:28:07-Feasibility of a universal Medicare program
2:36:24-Challenge of long-term care & the potential of AI

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