DEBATE: Should you learn Classical or Ecclesiastical Latin?

Should you learn Ecclesiastical or Classical Latin? This is a question I am often asked, and it's worth exploring in detail. Related questions include: Is Classical Latin superior to Ecclesiastical Latin? Is Ecclesiastical the same as Mediaeval Latin? Where did the Ecclesiastical Pronunciation come from? Is Ecclesiastical Pronunciation the same as Vulgar Latin? This and more will be answered in this heated debate from the streets of Rome! 🏛️

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SOURCES

Vox Latina, by W. Sidney Allen
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The Pronunciation of Greek and Latin, Edgar Howard Sturtevant
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Institutiones Stili Latini, by Aemilius Sprighetti
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The Regional Diversification of Latin 200 BC - AD 600, by JN Adams
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An Anthology of Informal Latin, 200 BC–AD 900: Fifty Texts with Translations and Linguistic Commentary, by JN Adams
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Social Variation and the Latin Language, by JN Adams
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Early and Late Latin: Continuity or Change?, by JN Adams
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Late Latin and Early Romance in Spain and Carolingian France (Arca Classical and Medieval Texts, Papers and Monographs, by Roger Wright
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Breve grammatica storica dell’italiano, by Paolo D’Achille
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De recta Latini Graecique sermonis pronuntiatione dialogus, by Erasmus (1528)
https://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/Ch...

Ecclesiastical Latin Versus Classical Latin, by Raphael Turrigiano:
https://ancientlanguage.com/ecclesias...

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TIMESTAMPS — see notes and further commentary in the pinned comment.
0:00 Intro to the Debate
0:58 Is Ecclesiastical Latin just Mediaeval Latin?
3:35 My course on StoryLearning: Latin Uncovered
5:32 Which sounds sillier: Classical or Ecclesiastical Pronunciation?
6:55 Is Ecclesiastical Pronunciation descended from the Roman Empire's pronunciation?
8:16 How do we know what Classical Latin sounded like?
11:55 The true origin of Ecclesiastical Pronunciation
18:30 How old is Ecclesiastical Pronunciation?
19:50 Phonemic vowel length is part of Ecclesiastical Pronunciation too!
22:35 So which should you learn?!
24:03 Outtakes!
24:59 What are you laughin' at?!