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What happens when a creator realizes their entire business could disappear overnight — and decides to rebuild the platform themselves?

In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner sits down with Pat Walls, founder of Starter Story, to unpack what happens when platform risk becomes very real — and how AI changes what founders can do about it.

After parts of Pat’s YouTube library were flagged as “dangerous content,” he realized something most creators avoid thinking about: years of work, audience, and revenue can vanish because of automated moderation. Instead of waiting for reassurance, Pat opened his terminal and started building.

Using modern AI coding tools, Pat prototyped a lightweight, self-hosted version of YouTube in hours — complete with video playback, chapters, transcripts, and gated access — without manually writing code. The conversation becomes a live walkthrough of how founders can now reclaim distribution, build owned platforms, and rethink YouTube as a spoke, not the hub.

This episode is a grounded, practical exploration of:

Platform dependency and creator risk
“Vibe coding” vs real product thinking
AI as a leverage multiplier, not magic
Why owning your audience matters more than ever
No hype. No futurism. Just real building, real fear, and real leverage.

What you’ll learn

Why relying on YouTube (or any platform) is dangerous
How Pat rebuilt a YouTube-like video hub in hours
What AI coding tools can actually do today
How to think in “hub and spoke” instead of platform-first
Why creators should own distribution and data
How non-engineers can build serious software with AI
The mindset shift from content → infrastructure

Timestamps

00:00 YouTube flags Starter Story content as “dangerous”
00:18 The fear of losing everything overnight
01:12 Why Pat decided to rebuild YouTube himself
01:39 How the YouTube channel really makes money
02:24 YouTube as discovery, not the business
03:18 Automated moderation and platform risk
04:21 Turning panic into building
05:24 The first version of a self-hosted YouTube
06:09 How little it costs to run
06:27 “Anyone can build this themselves”
07:12 Using Claude Code from the terminal
10:30 Why frameworks matter for AI coding
12:45 Turning screenshots into UI
16:57 Adding chapters and interactive timelines
19:48 Using wrappers instead of rebuilding infrastructure
23:24 AI debugging its own bugs
30:00 Why building with AI feels like painting
35:06 Publishing the app live
46:21 The hub-and-spoke mindset shift
47:42 Sending traffic to owned platforms

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