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A discussion of the Murray/Smith debate on the Joe Rogan show. Our call: A Murray victory that was somewhat obscured by Dave Smith's talented and agile performance.

00:00:00 Intro - Comedy Cellar Podcast Setup
00:00:51 Debate Overview - Rogan, Smith, Murray
00:02:00 Rise of Conspiracies on the Right
00:04:36 Tucker Carlson and Respectability
00:10:00 Dave Smith vs Douglas Murray - First Impressions
00:11:43 Smith Downplays Visiting Gaza
00:22:00 Expertise vs Populism
00:24:00 Smith Defends Churchill "Chief Villain" Revisionism
00:27:00 Misuses Operation Unthinkable
00:30:30 Ignoring Churchill Antisemitism Smear
00:38:00 Smith Mistake 1: Falsely describes Baker's "Not One Inch" NATO Promise
00:43:30 Smith Mistake 2: Misrepresents Nuland Ukraine Call as a "coup" plan
00:48:37 Smith Mistake 3: Distorts William Perry's resignation regrets and NATO expansion opinions
00:51:35 Smith Mistake 4: Misunderstands Churchill's "Unnecessary War" meaning
00:56:36 How Debates Collapse - Conceding (But Not Really)
01:10:00 Final Reflections - Mainstreaming Conspiracies
01:20:00 Reconciling Dave's positions on Ukraine and Israel.