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Get ready for a masterclass in communication, connection, and leadership! In this episode of Mick Unplugged, host Mick Hunt sits down with renowned trial attorney, speaker, and bestselling author Jefferson Fisher. Together, they unpack the real power behind less arguing and better conversations — for your workplace, for your family, and for your everyday life.

Discover why you should never aim to win an argument, the transformative impact of choosing your words, and how mastering control of yourself, the moment, and the pace can completely change your relationships. Jefferson Fisher shares personal stories, actionable advice, and a sneak peek into his hit book "The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More."

Whether you’re a leader, a communicator, or just want healthier conversations, this episode delivers practical tools anyone can use right now.

Chapters:
00:29 – Welcoming Jefferson Fisher & sharing the deeper "because" (why)
01:21 – Jefferson Fisher’s personal motivation
02:11 – Starting a podcast: authenticity and finding your unique voice
05:15 – The power of words: tone, timing, and lasting impact
08:23 – Introducing "The Next Conversation" book & discussion around arguing less
09:09 – How the book title was chosen and what it means
12:25 – Breaking down the book: essentials and applications
12:49 – Opening story: Big Bad Bobby Lapre & why you never win an argument
15:37 – Application: The essence of self-control in conversations
17:48 – Simple self-control tips: breathwork and mindset shifts
22:39 – Controlling the moment & pace: practical advice for leaders (feat. Chris Voss, Daymond John)
24:41 – The magic of the pause: using silence to shift dynamics
27:51 – Call to action: Book giveaway & mastermind details
28:46 – Why simplicity matters for leadership communication
29:12 – Quick Five: Jefferson Fisher’s rituals, music, habits, and lessons on leadership & parenting
36:12 – Where to find Jefferson Fisher and next steps for listeners

Takeaways:
Winning an argument shouldn’t be the goal—meaningful connection and understanding are far more powerful outcomes.
Effective communication isn’t just about the words you choose, but also about timing, tone, and emotional regulation.
Leaders can transform relationships and culture by mastering control over themselves, the moment, and the pace of conversation.

Sound Bites:
“Let your breath be the first word that you say.”
“Have something to learn, not something to prove.”
“When you control the pace, you are the one that has the power in the conversation.”

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