Скачать или смотреть Mind, Culture & Visual Illusions: Dorsa Amir and Chaz Firestone on Visual Illusions

Matt and Chris sit down to chat with Dorsa Amir and Chaz Firestone (@chazfirestone) about their recent paper 'Is Visual Perception WEIRD? The Müller-Lyer Illusion and the Cultural Byproduct Hypothesis.'

In a conversation that serves as a welcome tonic to the endless lamentations of the gurus about academic groupthink and closed-minded silos, Dorsa and Chaz discuss the interdisciplinary nature of their work, debates around universal vs. culturally specific psychology, and the strength of evidence that visual perception varies between cultures.

A fun one that might even leave you a little bit more optimistic than usual!

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Sources
Paper – Amir & Firestone (2025), Is Visual Perception WEIRD?
https://perception.jhu.edu/files/PDFs...

Dorsa Amir – personal site
https://www.dorsaamir.com

Mind & Culture Lab
https://www.mindandculturelab.com

Chaz Firestone – Perception & Mind Lab
https://perception.jhu.edu

Chaz Firestone – Instagram
  / chazfirestone  

Chaz’s BJJ victory video
   • Chaz Firestone vs Tim Dunn NoGi Submission...  

Decoding Academia #33 – The Great Müller‑Lyer Debate
https://podcasts.apple.com/ai/podcast...

Mickey Inzlicht Substack post on the paper
https://substack.com/home/post/p-1651...

Henrich, Heine & Norenzayan (2010) – “The WEIRDest People in the World?”
https://doi.org/10.1017/S0140525X0999...

Lucca et al. (2025) – “Infants’ Social Evaluation of Helpers and Hinderers”
https://doi.org/10.1111/desc.13581

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions
01:14 Academic Backgrounds and Cross-Disciplinary Tensions
02:16 Philosophy and Psychology: Bridging the Gap
05:15 Challenges in Cross-Disciplinary Research
08:18 Addressing Academia's Stereotypes
11:34 The Muller-Lyer Illusion: An Overview
20:25 Historical Context and Research Methods
22:15 Reevaluating the Cultural Byproduct Hypothesis
25:01 Braille and the Muller-Lyer Illusion
28:55 Initial Skepticism and Cross-Cultural Variability
34:49 Colour Perception and Cultural Differences
38:10 Challenges in Cross-Cultural Research
39:25 Weird vs. Non-Weird Cultures
45:06 Methodological Issues in Cross-Cultural Studies
46:30 Philosophy and Vision Science
51:16 Current Challenges in Academia
53:42 Future Research Directions