Why “Anti-Racism” Is the Worst Form of Racism | Coleman Hughes | EP 474

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author, podcaster, and opinion columnist Coleman Hughes. They discuss his latest book, “The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America,” why color blindness should be re-implemented as a cultural goal, the Marxist actors who have deliberately moved to repel it, the need for a meritocratic system, and instances when racial discrimination is appropriate.

Coleman Hughes is an author, podcaster, and opinion columnist who specializes in issues related to race, public policy, and applied ethics. Coleman’s writing has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, City Journal, the Spectator, and the Washington Examiner. He appeared on Forbes 30 Under 30 list in 2021. In 2019, Hughes testified before the U.S. House Judiciary subcommittee at a hearing on reparations for slavery. In 2024, Hughes released his first book, “The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America.” He has appeared on prominent TV shows and podcasts including “The View,” “Real Time with Bill Maher,” “The Joe Rogan Experience,” and “Making Sense with Sam Harris.” Hughes is a columnist at the Free Press and a contributor at CNN.

This episode was recorded on August 8th, 2024

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- Chapters -

(0:00) Coming up
(0:30) Intro
(3:42) It’s been four years: podcasting, writing, and “The View”
(6:09) The origins of racial color blindness
(11:11) Psychological markers for performance: success has nothing to do with race
(17:55) The crowning achievement of the civil rights movement
(20:29) Valid situations in which to racially discriminate: information and stakes
(24:54) Defaulting to stereotypes, in-group favoritism and it’s proper place
(28:10) Ethnic tribalism, proper taboos, and rekindling humor to break resentment
(36:27) From aristocracy to meritocracy … and back again
(39:09) A profound source of hope, color blindness is inherent
(41:26) The impossibility of equal outcomes, setting people up to fail
(50:18) Hiring for the wrong reasons
(52:59) When your enemies create your terminology: meritocracy and capitalism
(55:02) The false correlation between intelligence and morality
(59:37) The disparity of IQ and the cultural worship of intellect
(1:06:07) Steel-manning the opposition, the grift of Ibram X. Kendi
(1:12:26) Layers of pretext: my virtues, my race, me
(1:15:45) Discerning your own base motives
(1:20:46) When Coleman Hughes broke “The View”
(1:23:33) Any movement to unite us will be deterred by the Marxists
(1:24:49) Communism has a terrible track record, so they switched from economics to race
(1:28:09) “The End of Race Politics”



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