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Reformed Theology (#2098): Theological Gabfest: Rev. Long, Veitch, Sproul, “Everyone’s a Theologian”

Jesus' Authority and Jewish Rejection

Donald and Aaro discussed the Logos and Jesus' deity, focusing on his authority to forgive sins and heal on the Sabbath. They explored why Jews did not accept Jesus despite his fulfillment of prophecy, attributing it to a veil over their minds and the gift of faith being a divine gift. Donald mentioned St. Paul's sorrow over his fellow Jews, highlighting the genuine struggle in convincing them despite his own faith.

Chosen People and Historical Context

Donald and Aaron discussed the perception of Jews as God's chosen people, with Donald expressing skepticism about Lewis Schaefer's views on the Old Testament promises. They agreed that while supporting Israel as a nation-state is acceptable, mixing Christianity into the equation is problematic. Donald shared his perspective from a historical standpoint, emphasizing the importance of understanding the Holocaust and World War II.

Veterans' Experiences and Historical Reflections

Donald shared his experience with old VHS footage documenting the liberation of concentration camps by Allied troops, which he showed to a Navy captain who was impressed. Aaron mentioned that his grandfather, Papa Snyder, was part of the 508 engineers who liberated two concentration camps, and both grandfathers were affected by their combat experiences, which they rarely discussed. The conversation shifted to the deity of Jesus and his ability to forgive sins, as well as the historical context of Israel's establishment as a refuge for Jews after World War II.

Thorpe's Challenge to Catholic Forgiveness

The discussion focused on a trial transcript from 1409 involving William Thorpe, a Church of England clergyman who was a Wycliffian, and Archbishop William Arundel. The key point of contention was Thorpe's belief that individuals could go directly to Jesus for forgiveness, which contradicted the Antichrist’s teaching that priests are the sole channels of forgiveness. The conversation explored how this debate influenced the development of the Anglican prayer book, particularly in the context of the Reformed Episcopalians who sought to clarify the role of ministers in declaring forgiveness.

Scriptural Absolution and Ministerial Role

Donald discussed the importance of scriptural promises and Christ alone for absolution, quoting biblical verses. He highlighted Pastor Aaron Long's ability to recite liturgy from memory and shared Anselm's bedside counseling method, which emphasizes faith in Christ's sacrifice without auricular confession. Donald expressed his intention to use this method if he were dying, emphasizing the role of the minister as a declarer of the gospel rather than a priestly intermediary.

Confession's Role in Spiritual Growth

Aaron and Donald discussed the importance of confession in the context of spiritual growth and accountability. Aaron expressed his belief that confession is a helpful practice, particularly highlighting its role in applying scripture to the lives of believers. He referenced James' instruction to confess sins to one another and mentioned his experience leading a Celebrate Recovery Bible study, where participants engage in confession. Donald acknowledged Aaron’s perspective and agreed with the concept of confession, emphasizing its role in personal growth and accountability.

Christian Logos Theology Discussion

Donald and Aaron discussed the concept of the Logos in Christian theology, with Aaron explaining its attribution of deity to Christ. Donald expressed skepticism about Pelikan's claim that the first three centuries of Christian theology were primarily Logos-oriented, citing his ongoing reading of the "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers" series. They briefly touched on Justin Martyr's theological writings and the broader scope of early Christian Christology.

Verbal Inspiration and Higher Criticism

Donald and Aaron discussed the origins of the concept of verbal plenary inspiration, noting that Kim and Rogers errantly and ignorantly tracing it back to Francis Turretin and the Princetonians like Warfield and the Hodges while denying verbal, plenary inspiration in the church before Turretin—total rubbish and utter incompetence by Kim and Rogers. They contrasted this with higher criticism, which Donald referred to as "sewer criticism" and associated with satanic beliefs.