Episode 38 - Loss, Suffering and Healing with Eric McCormack and Ben Koehler

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In this episode of the Chapter 3 Stigma Podcast, Kyle is joined by guests Eric (@outlaw_strength (  / outlaw_strength  ) ) and Ben (@benjkoehler (  / benjkoehler  ) ). They explore the profound impact of trauma and the paths each has taken towards healing.


Eric discusses his transition from law enforcement to finding solace in fitness and unconventional therapies alongside the tragic loss of his fiancé.


Ben shares the deeply painful experience of losing his wife unexpectedly but finding strength through faith and community. Both highlight the importance of connection, mindfulness, and positive self-talk in recovery.


This episode offers a heartfelt and raw conversation about navigating life's most challenging moments and underscores the power of support systems in healing.


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00:00 Introduction to the Chapter 3 Stigma Podcast


01:08 A Surreal Episode: Physical, Emotional, and Spiritual Journeys


03:34 Meet Eric McCormick: From Law Enforcement to Fitness Coaching


04:34 Eric's Healing Journey: Trauma, Loss, and New Beginnings


07:06 Introducing Ben Koehler: Shared Experiences and Brotherhood


07:47 Ben's Story: Coping with Loss and Finding Purpose


11:01 Faith and Healing: Spiritual Connections and Personal Growth


29:14 A New Chapter: Moving to Phoenix and Building Community


49:54 Transformative Thought Patterns


50:23 The Power of Prayer in Difficult Times


51:53 Reflecting on Past Trials


53:10 Finding Peace Amidst Loss


55:38 The Importance of Showing Up


57:18 The Energy Drain of Asking Why


58:15 Understanding Trauma and Healing


01:01:33 Exploring Therapeutic Approaches


01:03:56 The Role of Coaching in Healing


01:04:58 The Impact of Psychedelic Therapy


01:15:24 Positive Self-Talk and Self-Worth


01:26:18 The Power of Presence and Connection


01:28:40 Final Thoughts and Reflections