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Dr. Bradley Block welcomes Dr. Shin Ock, founder of Azar Psychology, who focuses on providing therapy to high achievers, particularly physicians. They explore how intellectualization and goal-oriented training make behavior change harder for physicians, even though they know the right steps.
Dr. Ock emphasizes the importance of aligning behavior with personal values, as values guide long-term changes and provide more sustainable fulfillment than simply achieving goals. They also discuss the stigmas around seeking help in medical professions and how fostering openness to change can improve mental health and well-being.