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In this solo episode of Change Signal, Michael Bungay Stanier breaks down one of his favorite change and self-management tools: the Karpman Drama Triangle. Whether you're leading a transformation, managing a team, or just trying to navigate difficult relationships, this model reveals the dysfunctional patterns we fall into under stress—and how to get out of them.

We all play the roles of Victim, Persecutor, and Rescuer—sometimes all in one meeting. But the key isn’t to avoid drama forever. It’s learning to notice it sooner, exit it faster, and stay out of it longer.

Listen in to discover:
What your least played role reveals about your biggest triggers
How the Rescuer role disempowers even when it feels helpful
A practical way to map your stress responses to the drama triangle
Three powerful questions that can pull you—and your team—out of dysfunction
How to shift into more adult-to-adult relationships during change

🎯 KEY TOPICS:
00:00 Introduction
03:35 The roots of the Drama Triangle
06:45 Victim mode: prizes, punishments, and patterns
12:10 Persecutor mode: control, blame, and disconnection
17:50 Rescuer mode: why "helping" often causes harm
23:05 Why your least-used role may be your biggest trigger
26:40 How to notice you're in the triangle—and get out
29:55 Three coaching questions that shift the dynamic
33:00 Final reflections

💡 ABOUT MICHAEL:
Michael Bungay Stanier is the host of Change Signal and the author of bestsellers including The Coaching Habit and How to Work with (Almost) Anyone. He helps leaders shift behavior and culture through better conversations.

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