Susi Pudjiastuti: Political Misfit, People’s Hero? | In Conversation

Many fishing vessels enter and fish illegally across the Indonesian archipelago, hurting more than 7 million Indonesians who make their living from fishing. In response, Susi Pudjisastuti, Indonesian Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister from 2014 to 2019, embarked on an explosive campaign. She captured these illegal fishing vessels, arrested the crew, and blew up their ships in an extravagant show of force. Many Indonesians praise her as a hero and a defender of Indonesia’s sovereignty and fishing rights.

Since her term ended, China has increased its assertiveness in the South China Sea, adding security tensions to already tumultuous waters. How can Indonesia protect its fishing rights but maintain its relationship with China, a major economic investor in many Indonesian industries? How should Southeast Asia’s most populous nation balance ties between international superpowers China and the US? Susi Pudjiastuti tells us more on In Conversation.

0:00 Illegal fishing in the North Natuna Sea
2:11 Balancing UNCLOS, EEZs, and fishing rights
6:53 Is the US really needed in Southeast Asia?
8:39 Susi Pudjiastuti’s explosive approach
12:43 Why ASEAN needs to take more action
21:02 Why protecting the ocean is so important

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