Скачать или смотреть Phil McGovern on Starting Caffeine & Machine, Angry Local Residents and Overseas Plans | EP41

In this episode of Talkin' Shop, Louis and Aaron sit down with Phil McGovern, the visionary behind Caffeine & Machine, at one of his latest venues—The Bowl. Phil opens up about the brand’s journey from a café in Dubai to a cultural movement that bridges automotive enthusiasm, community, and lifestyle.

They dig into the origins of Caffeine & Machine and the story behind each location, the uphill battles with local councils and communities, Phil’s automotive love affair with Jaguar and what the future holds for C&M, including a possible international expansion.

Thanks to Phil for coming on the podcast!

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https://caffeineandmachine.com/

The Cult of Machine:
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https://www.thecultofmachine.com/

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro: Talkin' Shop at C&M The Bowl
02:12 - The story behind the different Caffeine & Machine locations
05:51 - How C&M events are created and kept inclusive
08:25 - Phil's background, Crank & Piston, and the Dubai café days
14:39 - Overcrowding at The Hill and service-based business challenges
15:53 - Winning over locals and authorities to open C&M
17:28 - Local council opposition and behind-the-scenes work to open
20:59 - Why Derbyshire C&M never happened
23:42 - Educating visitors on anti-social behaviour and enforcement
26:10 - What is the ultimate goal for Caffeine & Machine?
28:05 - How C&M uses data to curate events
30:08 - Copycats: Phil’s thoughts on competing venues
32:17 - Phil’s love for Jaguar and thoughts on new concept cars
34:16 - The Jaguar CX-75 vs Porsche 918 comparison
37:16 - Who is Jaguar's new demographic?
38:37 - Secrets behind running a successful restaurant at C&M
41:14 - String Theory: Why Ben stepped away from that site
44:09 - “I Love You, Man” and the importance of mental health
44:57 - Mat Armstrong and C&M’s biggest waiting list ever
51:30 - F1 watch parties and having real F1 cars at events
53:40 - Why Phil doesn’t glorify celebrities at C&M
56:17 - Expensive vs cool: What makes a car special at C&M
57:59 - What's in Phil’s personal garage?
59:25 - The McLaren P1 story and love for older cars
1:01:15 - Cult of Machine: Apparel with real automotive DNA
1:02:46 - What’s next? The future and global C&M plans
1:07:45 - Phil’s advice for travelling outside your comfort zone
1:12:12 - The Bowl: How it came to be and why the paint colour
1:13:00 - Phil’s time at Jaguar and reflections on special editions