AFP Talks to Lingua Ignota

WOE TO ALL WHO DO NOT LISTEN TO LINGUA IGNOTA

podcast interview with kristin hayter, aka Lingua Ignota recored in march 2019 in austin, tx during SXSW.

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CREDITS:

recorded by jessica gardner in austin, tx additional recording by alistair george at canon gate studios produced by FannieCo. cover photograph by hayley rosenblum cover art design by andrew nelson FEATURED SONGS (in order of their appearance):

"Faithful Servant Friend of Christ” by Lingua Ignota
"Bottomfeeder" by Amanda Palmer & The Grand Theft Orchestra
Excerpts from “Woe To All (On The Day Of My Wrath)” by Lingua Ignota

for more on lingua ignota: http://linguaignota.net
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TIME CODED SHOW NOTES + QUOTES

00:20 - “Faithful Servant Friend of Christ” by Lingua Ignota

05:21 - AFP on how she first discovered Lingua’s music through her friend and musician Cormac Bride

07:00 - Excerpts from “Woe To All (On The Day Of My Wrath) ” by Lingua Ignota

09:55 - AFP describes Lingua Ignota as a cross between Merzbow and Diamanda Galas

16:00 - At Brown University, Kristin’s Masters thesis on Digital Language Arts is titled “Burn Everything, Trust No One, Kill Yourself” which was algorithmically assisted using a Markov chain.

16:55 - To build the source material for her thesis, “I started culling together all of this language from the internet, and from liner notes, and from lyrics, from genres of extreme music that kind of mythologized misogyny.” - Kristin

18:30 - Kristin on her thesis: “I don’t want this to be something that has to be archived, I want this to be something that people have to deal with.”

19:00 - Some of Kristin’s inspiration that comes from Igor Stravinsky’s “The Rite of Spring”

22:45 - “In my other way, in my genre, I’ve picked something kind of extreme. Like, my stuff is definitely not for everyone and if you find confessional stuff confrontational, you’re going to find this really confrontational.” - AFP

24:20 - “There is only so much you can do with interpretation, there is only so much of yourself you can put into interpreting someone else’s music. And I eventually fell out of that and went to art school.” - Kristin

24:30 - “Coming to this work, I wanted it to be confrontational and to explore the ideas of gender-based violence in a way that wasn’t traditionally feminist. The work is not informed by any kind of Feminist school of thought, feminist theory, or—and I don’t really think about feminism at all when I make the work. I think about misogyny and hatred of women. And the attitudes espoused there. And about re-contextualizing and flipping the attitude instead.” - Kristin

29:30 - “My philosophy about art and this kind of stuff is that it’s all got to be allowed. Whether or not you serve it up with a giant context condiment buffet that isn’t what art ever has been and isn’t what art should turn into.” - AFP

28:45 - AFP on rethinking female artists like Tori Amos and Ani DiFranco. Her feelings around being compared to them and competing with them. And the framing around female-lead musicians as not as cool as the guys.

32:33 - “I wanted to be the kind of artist that my older boyfriend might actually one day stand up and say this is the thing. She can be up there with Current 93 and Swans and Coil like she belongs to the canon.” - AFP

35:00 - A discussion about having literal lyrics and if that makes you uncool.

45:47 - “I tend to specifically choose environments that maybe have more hostility in them to sing my most soul-baring songs.” - Kristin

47:10 - “I do think it’s really important to create that space and to make it okay for women to ask for things that facilitate making raw and important work. A lot of us are scared to do it and there is no environment in which to do it that feels okay. I mean,
it’s literally like you do it in a place that feels fucking terrible all the time.” - Kristin

50:56 - “I feel it’s my goal to instill fear in people who have done harm in the room… and to make people understand who don’t, or who don’t care. And then to honor people who have shared my experiences. So I want to do all that at once. And I feel like if I don’t do that, I fail.” - Kristin

52:10 - “One of my favorite things is when the sound guy comes back and is like, ‘that was fucking gnarly, that was the scariest thing I’ve ever seen!’ It’s happened a few times and I’m always looking for that response.” - Kristin

55:00 - On the environment in which you create, how to control it.

1:03:35 - “No one told me just play a blues jam, you’ll get the same levels, you don’t have to sing about your rape at sound check.” - AFP