Welcome to the DMF. Where I try to find out what motivates people behind the scenes in the world of acting and entertainment. Today on the podcast I am talking to film composers: Michelle Birsky and Kevin Henthorn. They just scored the new Netflix series' Terminator: Zero. We talk spoilers and creating themes for characters. Spoilers are talked about in this episode. As always you can reach me on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook with my name Justin Younts. Thank you for listening and sit back and enjoy.
Welcome to the DMF. I'm Justin Younts. This is part two. Now you guys did the scoring process in Air Studios, right? Just for the choir. Just for the choir. Yeah, so we flew out to London to record there. That was maybe one of the best experiences I think we've had recording. It was very, very special and cool. But yeah, it was just a small choir. And so everything had already been written. So it's just about going in there, getting rid of our MIDI choir, any of our temp choir, making it sound more human. Other than that, everything was done here. How did you guys go about choosing the themes for the characters? How did that process go? And was that something that you could really only... Before you got hired, were you... Because you did the first episode and that was kind of like your test. And I was like, yeah, you guys are hired. But were you privy at that point of kind of where the story was going so that you could know? Madsen gave us... We had access to everything. We were very close with Madsen, so we were able to get in from that side. So when we started doing character work early on, pretty much around when we were scoring the first episode, we knew where all the characters were going. So we had a very clear picture of their arc, which helped a lot. OK. All right. So I think now we're going to get into spoilers here. So this is going to be hard to talk about the music without talking about spoilers. So let's let's do it. Doing spoilers now. Click off if you don't want to hear any more. I love the idea in this story, you know, that we find out at the end that Aiko is really Malcolm Lee's mother and that the Oracle sends back his mother to save him. I just thought that was such a great twist. It didn't come out of nowhere. You can tell they protected the twist, you know, when they're on the bridge, you know, never sees her. Was that something that you got when you guys... Did that influence you guys when you knew that was kind of where it was going or is that something you guys found later? I think it influenced us a little bit. We the two themes for, I guess, like Malcolm's theme and Aiko's theme do have some similarities. And I think that was intentional. We never wanted it to be blatant, but I think having just like a it's a little bit similar. Like you hear his stuff and then you hear hers, but hers is in the future and dressed completely differently. But, yeah, there was some similarities between the two. And I think we used we knew it was going to happen. So it was we started thinking about that in the beginning. And then there was a really small, like vocal line, a female vocal line over. I forget which episode it is. I think it's episode it's when Malcolm's talking about his origins, his origin story. And, you know, during the birth moment, we have this vocal sample come in. Then again, we have it come in when he's talking to Aiko in episode eight as all this action is coming around. And then we have it again. Can I do big spoilers? Yeah, yeah. We have this vocal line that's kind of threaded through and it's subtle, but it's like we were very aware of when to thread it in. Was that something when you guys were looking at the script? We're like, oh, wow, this is really interesting where they're where they're going with this. Yeah. I mean, it was pretty fun. And there were other characters, too, that like really. But like those are spoils for other seasons. So I can't really. A lot of the kids, they have they're just starting their arc, you know. But it was really helpful knowing the clear picture of everything so that we could really create themes that would last. The theme that I feel like kind of defines the show is it will never be the same. That's kind of like we keep hearing that kind of this is that you guys talked about how you wanted to play it. If you can play it simply. I'm paraphrasing exactly what you guys said in the interview. But you said play it simply or sing it simply like just so that's something you just came up with on the on the on the piano or something. And then just for like, we'll just build on that. Yeah, well, it took time to figure out how I mean, so that was an early demo. So that was like, it'll never be the same was was from the demos way back when. So that was probably the biggest one that stuck and now and run. Yeah, the opening sequence of episode one. But Madsen kept being like, if I had it my way, it'll never be the same would be the theme of the ...
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