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What happens when a kid who broke every toy to understand how it worked grows up to build podcast technology used by thousands? Andrea De'Marsi shares the unconventional path from a small Italian town to co-founding Spreaker (acquired) and now PodSEO.

Andrea is the co-founder of PodSEO, a platform helping podcasters get discovered through search optimization. Previously, he co-founded Spreaker, one of the most successful podcast hosting and monetization platforms, which was acquired by a major US corporation. With a background in telecom engineering and a thesis completed in the same building where Guglielmo Marconi sent the first radio message in history, Andrea brings a unique perspective on technology, creativity, and building companies that last.

In this conversation, we go deep on the mindset shifts that separate successful founders from everyone else. Andrea shares his philosophy of "embracing the void"—intentionally creating unstructured time to unlock creative thinking. We explore why his small-town Italian education shaped his approach to problem-solving, how surviving the dot-com crash taught him that external failures aren't personal failures, and why he bet on remote work in 2015 (years before the pandemic made it mainstream). For podcasters, Andrea breaks down why SEO strategy is the missing piece most shows ignore—and how the right keywords can drive double-digit listener growth.

Whether you're building a startup, growing a podcast, or just trying to think more creatively, this episode delivers frameworks you can apply immediately.


🎯 IN THIS EPISODE:
0:00 - Cold open: The toy-breaking mindset that predicted entrepreneurship
4:44 - Growing up in Ravenna, Italy (former Roman Empire capital)
9:41 - Why small-town teachers shaped Andrea's approach to life
12:42 - The power of being open-minded and lateral thinking
14:25 - "Embrace the void": Why boredom unlocks creativity
21:24 - Technology obsession: From Commodore 64 to telecom engineering
24:05 - Breaking toys vs. playing with them—the curiosity advantage
29:03 - Thesis at Marconi's radio lab (the first radio message in history)
33:06 - First startup experience and the Swiss radio wave company
34:37 - Why startup culture beats corporate (and the tradeoffs)
37:27 - Finding co-founders you can truly trust
41:46 - "You can be one of them": Mindset after watching millions fail
45:01 - The dot-com crash lesson: External failures aren't your failures
49:38 - AI, fear, and the future of work
59:56 - Spreaker founding: From live radio to podcast monetization
1:00:19 - The 2015 remote work decision that changed everything
1:05:24 - Why Spreaker succeeded: Product-market fit evolution
1:07:44 - Podcast monetization: What actually works
1:12:49 - Why PodSEO was born after the acquisition
1:14:58 - How podcast discoverability is broken (and how to fix it)
1:17:55 - PodSEO roadmap: Automating SEO workflows for creators
1:22:04 - Final reflections on human stories vs. company promotion

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