Jessi Hildebrandt Speaks Out Against Jodi Hildebrandt, 8 Passengers & Ruby Franke | Ep. 1808

Mormon therapist Jodi Hildebrandt is in jail along with "8 Passengers" mother Ruby Franke under allegations of child abuse. Jodi Hildebrandt is the founder of ConneXions Classroom - a program created to help Mormon couples, parents, and families "transform your mental health and relationships."

Jessi Hildebrandt (they/them) is Jodi Hildebrandt's niece and outlines a deeply disturbing history with their aunt Jodi Hildebrandt.

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Chapters
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:40 Jessi Hildebrandt is Jodi Hildebrandt’s niece
00:03:57 What Jessi wrote to Mormon Stories
00:10:19 One of the reasons Jessi wanted to speak out, anyone who has experienced abuse
00:14:35 Grew up in California
00:29:00 Jessi’s dad and Jodi are siblings; Jodi’s childhood
00:34:55 Questions concerning Jodi perhaps suppressing same-sex sexuality;
00:41:00 Jessi’s struggles in High School
00:43:00 Story of staying over at Jodi’s house for their grandparents anniversary
00:53:50 With Jodi there is only Good and Evil, no in-between
00:54:35 Jodi genuinely believed that Satan was working through Jessi
00:57:15 The Mormon church was funding Jodi Hildebrandt
01:00:15 Spiritual surgery, so it has to be extreme
01:03:40 Jessi was duct taped because everything they said was a lie
01:08:35 It didn't start out as horrifically abusive
01:12:40 Jodi believed that if you were angry, depressed, etc. It was a result of SHAME and shame was a result of SIN - so mental health was a result of sin
01:15:00 Jodi would say: “I’m trying to make you so physically uncomfortable that it forces the sin out of you.”
01:18:40 Jessi slept on a loveseat, then the floor, then on the balcony outside
01:24:40 Jodi would make them run sprints every night,
01:27:25 There are moments in the abuse where you are rewarded
01:35:00 Jodi is the mastermind not Ruby, but Ruby put her in the spotlight
01:37:44 You don’t need to forgive people who have abused you
01:47:20 The Mormon church gave Jodi her power, where was God in this?
01:49:00 Jodi full believes in her own bulls*it
01:53:20 Jodi’s beliefs in Mormon doctrines and ideas, etc
01:55:35 Does the worth of a soul justify abuse?
02:00:45 Sex addiction and porn addiction is not real
02:10:30 Jessi’s outlook on how their parents dealt with this
02:21:30 They wish their parents would acknowledge that it happened
02:23:20 Jodi was put on parole because she violated HIPAA
02:31:15 They feel lucky to have created the life that they have
02:34:20 Leaving the Mormon church
02:49:00 Good things and good morals are not exclusive to Mormonism or religion
02:52:15 Religion has to be the disease AND the cure
03:00:00 Have they considered writing a book?
03:04:15 They had given up anyone listening to or believing their story


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