The Downbeat Podcast - Manuel Gagneux (Zeal & Ardor)

My guest on the podcast this week is Manuel Gagneux, mastermind behind Swiss avant-garde black metal band Zeal & Ardor.

Z+A mix the style of European Black Metal (a genre notorious for it's link with racism) and elements of African-American Spirituals and Gospel with electrifying results. We talked about the band's unlikely beginnings on the darkest parts of the internet, black magick, reappropriating Richard Wagner and of course: Manuel's dream festival.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 | intro
4:47 | pronounce "gagneux"
5:00 | meshuggah in glasgow
6:48 | "bed time liner" for 80s synthpop band
8:40 | "the best kept secret" in the netherlands
10:38 | headline tours
12:42 | black metal supporting acts
14:30 | black metal purists/elitism
17:01 | inception of Z+A
18:45 | alan lomax
20:30 | devil is fine
25:02 | being an anonymous artist
26:39 | demos
27:38 | over-arcing album themes
29:00 | graphic novel/netflix
30:10 | incantation lyrics
35:02 | self-titled album
38:38 | satanism in music
42:05 | german/wagner
46:38 | interest in the occult
53:17 | twitch
59:23 | having children
1:00:40 | the downbeat dungeons & dragons
1:16:00 | beer
1:17:23 | scoring music
1:19:53 | daniel p. carter
1:21:20 | notation/outro