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Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry are high-conflict divorce strategists and the founders of Been There Got Out. Their clients are battling their own personal terrorist through the family court system and belong to the “My lawyer says this is the craziest case they’ve ever had” club - many also learn to represent themselves in court (go “pro se”).

Through customized coaching sessions, a weekly Legal Abuse Support Group, their book, podcasts, and an comprehensive online program of courses, “From Fear to Fierce in Family Court,” Chris and Lisa support people through these harrowing situations, saving them precious time, money and energy, so that they have the best chance at getting themselves (and their kids) through this all as unscathed as possible.

Lisa successfully represented herself through scores of court appearances in both family and appellate court; her case was published in the Connecticut Law Journal (unheard of for a pro se), and is now used as case law. Her live testimony also helped pass Jennifers’ Law in Connecticut, then the third state in America to expand its legal definition of domestic violence to include “coercive control.”

Chris, a certified high-conflict divorce coach and former financial planner, has also had success as a pro se litigant. His background in sales, marketing, and technology helped create the Been There Got Out podcast, and he also specializes in writing high-conflict parenting plans. He is developing BTGO’s course on the same topic.

Their upcoming book, “When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You” releases in March 2026.
https://beentheregotout.com/