trinities 375 - The Trinity, the Deity of Christ, and the Best Craig - Part 1

https://trinities.org/blog/podcast-37... In this episode I first explain what I mean by “the best Craig” and why in my view we’re not getting that in some recent responses to my arguments. I then respond to some recent podcast episodes by Dr. William Lane Craig here and here, where Craig is not engaging with my arguments, instead dismissing me as a fringe kook who can be safely ignored.

I note how quickly he jumps from the Trinity to the Incarnation, and I challenge him to explain why, on biblical grounds, a doctrine of the Trinity is essential for Christianity. I also point out some mistakes and misunderstandings, as well as his failure to engage with my published critique of his Neo-Apollinarian christology and my views on the fourth gospel.

We again revisit what Craig calls “the modern relation of identity” (really: a modern understanding of identity) and I point out what is now an area of agreement about the concept of identity. Yet based on his recent remarks, Craig doesn’t understand what I think about the identity of God and the Father in the New Testament.

I refute his recent allegation that no New Testament scholar thinks that nowhere in the New Testament is Jesus taught to be fully divine; my counterexample is the famous and influential James Dunn. I then offer a few thoughts on his fallback objection that the vast majority of New Testament scholars would disagree.

Lastly, I respond to his brief argument from divine providence and the fourth gospel. Am I committed to God failing in his promised post-resurrection revelation?

Links for this episode @ https://trinities.org/blog/podcast-37...

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This week's thinking music is "Lan Voon" by Van Loon. https://freemusicarchive.org/music/va...

Chapters:
00:00:22 Introduction
00:02:31 The Best Dale, The Best Craig
00:05:39 Disappointments and Misrepresentations
00:21:54 "The Modern Relation of Identity"
00:32:01 Scholarly Consensus on New Testament
00:34:21 Scholarly Ignorance of Alternate Views
00:40:57 Worship of Jesus in New Testament
00:47:51 Divine Providence and Unitarianism
00:51:34 Fulfillment of Jesus' Promise