What if building software was as simple as having a conversation?
In this episode of The AI Download, Shira Lazar sits down with Anton Osika, founder and CEO of Stockholm-based startup Lovable, one of the fastest-growing software companies in history. Launched in 2023, Lovable scaled to roughly $300M in ARR and millions of users by letting anyone, not just engineers, build full-stack apps using natural language and AI.
Anton explains how “vibe coding” is changing software development, why no-code AI tools are unlocking a new wave of founders, and what happens when anyone can spin up products in minutes. From scaling an AI company with an ultra-lean team to navigating AI regulation in Europe, this conversation explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping startups, work, and who gets to build the future.
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Why This Matters
For decades, coding has been a gatekeeper skill in tech. AI-powered no-code tools like Lovable are removing that barrier, allowing creators, founders, and operators to build software without engineering teams. If this model scales, it could reshape how startups are built, how companies operate, and who gets to participate in the AI economy.
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What We Cover
• What “vibe coding” means and how AI is changing software development
• How Lovable became one of the fastest-growing AI startups (from $100M to ~$300M ARR)
• What a multibillion-dollar valuation actually signals for AI companies
• Real examples of non-coders building full-stack apps with AI
• Risks of misuse, spam, and security in no-code AI tools
• Competing in a world where OpenAI, Google, and others offer no-code builders
• How ultra-lean AI teams can scale massive businesses
• Will AI take jobs? What skills matter in the AI economy
• Anton’s leadership style, daily workflow, and how he uses AI
• Why he plans to give away half his wealth
• AGI as a software system vs just a language model
• Europe vs Silicon Valley: AI regulation, culture, and strategy
• Lovable’s roadmap to $1B ARR
• Bold predictions for AI, startups, and creativity over the next five years
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 $300K/Month Businesses + “New Economic Opportunities”
00:35 Welcome Back: Shira Introduces Anton Osika + Lovable
01:24 What Lovable Does: “Last Software” + Episode Setup
01:47 Anton’s Hypergrowth: $100M → $300M + Lives Changed
03:02 Barriers Removed: Creators Building Without Engineers
04:02 Valuation + Becoming a Public Figure + “Last Destination for Software”
05:07 Lovable Timeline + Scale: 300M Visits + 130K+ New Projects
07:16 Built for the 99%: Why Lovable Exists + “Lovable Software”
11:09 Shira’s Live Example: “Make It Prettier” + Credits + Cost Tradeoffs
13:33 Why It’s Exploding: Builder Stories + Real Businesses (incl. $300K/mo)
27:39 The New Economy: Building on Lovable + Value Beyond “Wrappers”
31:37 What’s Next: New Capabilities, Agents, Deeper Integration
38:05 EU vs U.S. + AI Act + Ethics, Integrity, Misinformation, Trust
47:20 Bold Predictions + Final Advice + Shira Wrap (Subscribe/Newsletter)
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About the Guest
🔗 LinkedIn (Anton Osika) / antonosika
🔗 X / Twitter (Anton Osika) https://x.com/antonosika
🔗 Lovable https://lovable.dev
🔗 Lovable on X https://x.com/lovable_dev
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Credits: This episode of The AI Download was hosted, created, and executive produced by Shira Lazar. Music by PALA, Catalina Coastline (licensed under Boss Soundstripe Productions by BMI). Produced by Musso Media. © 2025 Shira Lazar. All rights reserved.
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