When Success Feels Empty ... Seven-time Mr. Olympia Phil Heath sits down with Sal Di Stefano for his most vulnerable conversation yet—about identity, idols, and why the “crown” of fame felt too heavy without God. Phil opens up about depression, , picking up the Bible, and grieving the sudden loss of a childhood friend—finding comfort in John 11 and the shortest verse in Scripture: “Jesus wept.”
They talk men’s fellowship, confessing weakness, training with worship instead of rage music, and what it really means to steward success for God’s glory—not the world’s applause. If you’ve ever “won” and still felt empty, this one’s for you.
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00:00 Intro: Why Phil’s story matters
01:06 “Selling your soul” for fame, cars, and followers
02:18 “The crown was too heavy”—glory that belongs to God
03:37 Canceling plant medicine & opening the Bible
05:06 Stewardship vs. self—what the Sandow really meant
06:40 Identity, depression, and chasing worldliness
08:12 Marriage, leadership, and becoming the spiritual head
09:45 Men’s fellowship, vulnerability, and confession
11:32 The phone call: grieving a childhood friend (Teddy)
13:20 “Jesus wept”—comfort in John 11
15:10 Prayer, repentance, and spiritual warfare
16:48 Music shift: from rage to worship (training with peace)
18:22 Detachment vs. love rightly ordered
19:55 When success feels hollow & why surrender frees you
21:30 Encouragement for men: boldness without bravado
23:10 Closing prayer for Teddy’s family & Phil’s walk
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