Harris campaign wants people to hear ‘crazy things’ Trump will likely say in debate: Messina

Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump’s teams are sparring over the rules for their upcoming debate. NBC News Senior White House correspondent Gabe Gutierrez, former Obama 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina, Republican strategist Susan Del Percio, and Boston Globe senior opinion writer Kimberly Atkins Stohr join Katy Tur to discuss. 

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