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As government support for DEI programs faces growing resistance, companies are left to decide where they stand. Katherine von Jan, co-founder of Tough Day, explores how organizations are navigating this moment — some doubling down on inclusion as a core value, others backing away to avoid political backlash. In conversation with Pioneers of AI host Rana el Kaliouby, she explains how Tough Day works with each company to define its own path, rooted in the belief that these issues impact everyone, not just underrepresented groups.

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Pioneers of AI is your guide to the latest technological frontier. Each week, host Rana el Kaliouby (AI scientist, investor, author, co-founder of Affectiva) is joined by the leading creators, critics, and thinkers behind mind-blowing technology and asks the important questions about how artificial intelligence is changing the way we live. As we venture together into the unknown, Pioneers is your tool to understanding and anticipating what comes next.

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