Скачать или смотреть The Hardest Shift in Church Leadership No One Prepares You For [Pastor Andy McMillan]

In today’s conversation, I sit down with Andy McMillan, lead pastor in Ulysses, Kansas, to talk about the tension between being a Sunday Director and a Spiritual Director. We discuss leading through church growth stages, avoiding the trap of constantly chasing the next thing, and the heartbreak of watching people fall behind as your church matures.
Andy shares how he structures his week around preaching, pastoring, and leading, why some systems hurt spiritual formation, and what Eugene Peterson really said about church size before he died.
This is a goldmine for any pastor navigating Whitewater, balancing formation with execution, and asking the deeper question: Am I building something sustainable?
👀 Watch this if you're trying to grow your church without losing your soul.


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